Parang Negara/Muslim Mandau

[Dajak]

No not the scabbard but the handle has also floral motif and silver ferrule



Ben

[VVV]

Originally Posted by Dajak

No not the scabbard but the handle has also floral motif and silver ferrule

Ben

I am sorry Ben but here I think you strech the floral motif a bit too far.
To me your Golok could just as well come from Sumatra (this doesn't mean that it couldn't come from Borneo but that I don't find it typical for f.i. Sarawak).

Below is an example that I traded from Charles (I haven't had time to take new pictures so I hope that Charles forgives me for using his).
This one has both the floral motif on the hilt as well as on the scabbard.
Still I think most of us would attribute this to Sumatra in style?

IMHO it's the combination with the Malay floral motifs and the f.i.Dayak mandau design that makes a weapon "Malay/Muslim Dayak".

Michael

[Dajak]

Hi take a good look sumatra I never see with rattan bindings and look at the motif sumatra goes inside this one goes outside .

And sorry it is not silver but nickel/copper/zinc ie brass we call this berlin silver


Ben

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Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi take a good look sumatra I never see with rattan bindings and look at the motif sumatra goes inside this one goes outside...

Hi Ben,

That's a very interesting observation I haven't thought about before.
It's probably very good together with other clues, but not by itself.
Because this is also found in some parts of Sumatra.
Like f.i. the Padang highlands (see a couple of examples illustrated in the Leiden catalogue - Sumatra III; Central Sumatra by Fischer).
As well as Aceh of course (which probably isn't relevant in this case).

Also, several Borneo hilts have the floral motif going inside?
On the rattan I don't think I have seen it often on Borneo weapons?

Michael

[Dajak]

Hi Michael you see the rattan binding on some philipine weapons like the moro keris in the north part off borneo
and some mandau s have it too .
I have an parang sankit from the Muruts with binding like an moro keris .

the Leiden museum is nice but you also see that they have Sikims that they are telling it is from Borneo .
the only Thing I use the Leiden museum for is when they bring the weapon in .


Ben

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Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi Michael you see the rattan binding on some philipine weapons like the moro keris in the north part off borneo
and some mandau s have it too .
I have an parang sankit from the Muruts with binding like an moro keris .

the Leiden museum is nice but you also see that they have Sikims that they are telling it is from Borneo .
the only Thing I use the Leiden museum for is when they bring the weapon in .


Ben

Hi Ben,

I think the few examples they have chosen to illustrate, as typical for the region, in the catalogues
are better documented than some of the few mistakes that show up in all publications.
I don't know the Sikim example but doesn't they describe where it was collected, not manufactured?
I know which parang sangkit you mean and it looks very much like a Sulu binding but it's not rattan?
Otherwise I agree on the rattan on the hilts of Moro swords.

Michael

[Mytribalworld]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi take a good look sumatra I never see with rattan bindings and look at the motif sumatra goes inside this one goes outside .

And sorry it is not silver but nickel/copper/zinc ie brass we call this berlin silver


Ben

Hi Ben,

can you list pics of the blade? The handle looks indeed like banjarese style...

Arjan.

[Dajak]

Hi Arjan just look on the website off Stefan it is still there



Ben