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Old 26th October 2007, 04:37 PM   #1
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Thanks Charles!
I know that Arjan has one and hoped to see some more...

Ben, you have seen this blade "live". After recieveing the one at the top of the post I start to suspect that this maybe also could be a Parang Negara?
Maybe something transitional?
Or maybe I see too much in the floral motifs, the hidden figural hilt and the brass ferrule?

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Old 26th October 2007, 06:09 PM   #2
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Hi Charles nice to see the mandau again no it is not from that region

the brass ferrule is also seen in silver and copper so not an indication .

And it is typical dayak style from Sarawak /Kalimantan .


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Old 26th October 2007, 07:51 PM   #3
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....the brass ferrule is also seen in silver and copper so not an indication .

And it is typical dayak style from Sarawak /Kalimantan .


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Hi Ben,

It wasn't so much the brass ferrule, stand alone, as the combo with the (malay/muslim?) floral motif that suddenly made me think about Negara swords.
Do you mean Sarawak OR Kalimantan???

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Old 27th October 2007, 06:57 AM   #4
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Hi Michael I mean Sarawak

And Charles was talking about the brass ferule COULD BE AN INDICATION :

the motifs on the blade are the indication that it is MUSLIM

these I think this can also find on some sumatra blade s


But you mean it could also be from muslim North borneo some off the parang sangkit has the same ferrule and the motif handle scabbard looks like the litle parang I have from North Borneo


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Old 27th October 2007, 09:28 AM   #5
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...scabbard looks like the litle parang I have from North Borneo


Ben
Hi Ben,

It seems like we agree that all of the features are Muslim indicators.
Could you please show the little parang and scabbard as I don't get this part?
Do you have a scabbard, resembling mine, from North Borneo?

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Old 27th October 2007, 05:35 PM   #6
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No not the scabbard but the handle has also floral motif and silver ferrule



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No not the scabbard but the handle has also floral motif and silver ferrule

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I am sorry Ben but here I think you strech the floral motif a bit too far.
To me your Golok could just as well come from Sumatra (this doesn't mean that it couldn't come from Borneo but that I don't find it typical for f.i. Sarawak).

Below is an example that I traded from Charles (I haven't had time to take new pictures so I hope that Charles forgives me for using his).
This one has both the floral motif on the hilt as well as on the scabbard.
Still I think most of us would attribute this to Sumatra in style?

IMHO it's the combination with the Malay floral motifs and the f.i.Dayak mandau design that makes a weapon "Malay/Muslim Dayak".

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