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The kartika chopper or ,,flying knife,, when they have the large elaborate handle with demonic faces are known as vajrakartika in northern India and dorje grigug in Tibet and Nepal.
Again, their main use seems to be what is known as the as the Sky-burial, a hard to comprehend act by the cultures of Christian based spirituality, when a dead body is carried up in the mountains and in a funeral ritual carried by a shaman the body is chopped to pieces and left for the animals, mainly vultures to devour showing nothing but absolute uncompassion for the body but great contempt for the soul of the deceased. Some more images of how elaborate kartika can get: |
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This is a set from 17th century eastearn Tibet, Kham region made of only gilt bronze and pure rock crystal blades, belonging to the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. They are between eight and nine inches length (twenty to twenty three centimeters long). It is composed of the chopper (kartrika), the stake-dagger (phurba) and the phurba-vajra-khartika halberd combination (parashu). Enjoy:
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I could cite sources, but why? That would require more work than I care to do. Last edited by ruel; 8th December 2004 at 01:08 AM. |
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the kartika is a ceremonial weapon used in some rituals to cut the bonds of ignorance, in other rituals to chop up demons. It is used in conjuction with the kapala (actually made of a person's top half of the skull!
![]() Another note: the phurba in some ceremonies is used to pin down the demon or evil spirit so the lama can have more control. Sometimes you will see a horse head on top. It is the form of a deity that frightens demons (the name escapes me at present). |
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Thanks Radu for this thread I had wondered what these were. I will reiterate your point on the fakes, the markets in Thailand were flooded, and I mean flooded with these pieces. Some shops had nothing but "genuine Nepalese crafts". I saw foriegners buying these up by the dozen and what would someone do with that many of the same thing - sell it on ebay. Thanks again.
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Great thread Radu!
Heres a small iron phurba & an old Tamang shamans drum out of my Nepalese collection. {Also a photo of a Tamang Shaman with a similar drum.} The handle of the drum is like a large phurba with the same faces, makara ,snakes , thunderbolts etc. I understand phurbas take something of the spirits they have pinned into themselves, & become entitys in thier own right. Spiral |
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Oh you're not kidding about the fakes. My first rip off (and only so far) in weaponry collecting was buying a fake for $200.
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