RARE BORNEO SWORD IS IT AN PARANG NIABOR ???

Mytribalworld · 16th October 2007, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dajak

You can t read Arjan

Ben

Hi Ben,

I think your coming close to getting personal.
This is a forum an we should talk about swords ,our common interest.
It should be nice if we let eachother free in our interpretations.
The level of this forum ( and certainly the Dayak related threads) should be of a higher level if none of the parties would act like they are alwise...
Sometimes we could learn from eachother and I think that was also why this site has once started.

Arjan.

Dajak · 16th October 2007, 06:34 PM

I think you don t think right some people wanna push what they think not what is reality .

And it seem you on this way .

Ben

Mark · 17th October 2007, 03:09 PM

We have at least a three-way pissing match going on here. Stop. Now.

The next offense will earn the offender a permanent ban. Everyone remains ON TOPIC and CIVIL, or they get banned. No debate, no discussion, no second chance.

Frankly, I have lost all patience with this kind of childish squabbling crap, from anyone in any context.

Mark
Vikingsword Staff

asomotif · 19th October 2007, 05:12 PM

Dear Ben,

I would love to learn about the reality of this sword.
Please don't forget to share it with forum as soon as you find out the exact origin and history of the sword.

Best regards,
Willem

Dajak · 20th October 2007, 08:01 AM

Hi Willem I leave it like it is if you like to now just visit
the depot off the museum everyone is welcome there
and you find out how it did get in the hands off the Tilburgs museum .

I did say enough about this subject.

regards,
Ben

David · 20th October 2007, 03:04 PM

Well, after mediating this discussion in PMs i don't really wish to stir the pot...However, it seems to me that part of the problem here Ben is that you haven't really said enough. You have dismissed the claims of others here, but you have not presented any real evidence to back that up even though you promised us some. And now that you guys have got me actually interested in this thread i would really like to know more.

Unfortunately getting to the Tilburg Museum is not an option for the vast majority on this forum. Even though it has mainly been you, Willem and Arjan going tit for tat on this thread there are a whole lot of non-Dutch members who just don't have very easy access to Dutch museums. Your help cooperation here would be greatly appreciated here Ben.

Dajak · 20th October 2007, 04:27 PM

Hi David ok I will go next week and try to get what I need to prove that this sword was an gift to the museum .

The Sword is not in the Tilburg museum It is in the depot
from Nijmegen Museum that was an part off the University from Nijmegen.
The fathers off Tilburg give the collection that they had to Nijmegen .

http://www.socsci.kun.nl/maw/antropologie/museum/

Het Nijmeegs Volkenkundig Museum, dat zich bevindt op het terrein van de universiteit, herbergt in haar depots diverse collecties etnografica. Behalve haar eigen collectie beheert het museum de Beijens Collectie van de gemeente Nijmegen, de collectie van het voormalig Volkenkundig Missie Museum Tilburg en de collecties van de missie orden der Paters Capucijnen, Augustijnen en Jezuïeten.

Beijens also an collector

Above in Dutch the Collection from the Missie Museum and
the paters Capucijnen Augustijnen en Jezuieten .

But not only the paters did bring stuf in also other people that collect stuf weapons and other things .
it is 6 collections .
Museum Nijmegen Collection
Beijens Collection

Missie Museum collection
Paters Capucijnen
Augustijnen
Jezuieten

(Bill Marsh can translate Dutch better to English than me)

Link to the museum database

http://www.svcn.nl/collectie.asp

we have to be always carefull about what we think or what might be true .

Ben

17th October 2007, 03:09 PM	#3
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	I am warming up my banning stick We have at least a three-way pissing match going on here. Stop. Now. The next offense will earn the offender a permanent ban. Everyone remains ON TOPIC and CIVIL, or they get banned. No debate, no discussion, no second chance. Frankly, I have lost all patience with this kind of childish squabbling crap, from anyone in any context. Mark Vikingsword Staff

19th October 2007, 05:12 PM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	reality of thsi specific Niabor Dear Ben, I would love to learn about the reality of this sword. Please don't forget to share it with forum as soon as you find out the exact origin and history of the sword. Best regards, Willem

16th October 2007, 06:34 PM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	I think you don t think right some people wanna push what they think not what is reality . And it seem you on this way . Ben

20th October 2007, 08:01 AM	#5
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Willem I leave it like it is if you like to now just visit the depot off the museum everyone is welcome there and you find out how it did get in the hands off the Tilburgs museum . I did say enough about this subject. regards, Ben

20th October 2007, 03:04 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Well, after mediating this discussion in PMs i don't really wish to stir the pot...However, it seems to me that part of the problem here Ben is that you haven't really said enough. You have dismissed the claims of others here, but you have not presented any real evidence to back that up even though you promised us some. And now that you guys have got me actually interested in this thread i would really like to know more. Unfortunately getting to the Tilburg Museum is not an option for the vast majority on this forum. Even though it has mainly been you, Willem and Arjan going tit for tat on this thread there are a whole lot of non-Dutch members who just don't have very easy access to Dutch museums. Your help cooperation here would be greatly appreciated here Ben.

20th October 2007, 04:27 PM	#7
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi David ok I will go next week and try to get what I need to prove that this sword was an gift to the museum . The Sword is not in the Tilburg museum It is in the depot from Nijmegen Museum that was an part off the University from Nijmegen. The fathers off Tilburg give the collection that they had to Nijmegen . http://www.socsci.kun.nl/maw/antropologie/museum/ Het Nijmeegs Volkenkundig Museum, dat zich bevindt op het terrein van de universiteit, herbergt in haar depots diverse collecties etnografica. Behalve haar eigen collectie beheert het museum de Beijens Collectie van de gemeente Nijmegen, de collectie van het voormalig Volkenkundig Missie Museum Tilburg en de collecties van de missie orden der Paters Capucijnen, Augustijnen en Jezuïeten. Beijens also an collector Above in Dutch the Collection from the Missie Museum and the paters Capucijnen Augustijnen en Jezuieten . But not only the paters did bring stuf in also other people that collect stuf weapons and other things . it is 6 collections . Museum Nijmegen Collection Beijens Collection Missie Museum collection Paters Capucijnen Augustijnen Jezuieten (Bill Marsh can translate Dutch better to English than me) Link to the museum database http://www.svcn.nl/collectie.asp we have to be always carefull about what we think or what might be true . Ben