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			hmmm, good question. I had thought Rick laid it out in the opening posts, but going back i see he did not. I know we spoke privately about tombaks being topical to this forum, but i will defer to Rick on where, exactly, the line should be drawn on other weapons.   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
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 I thought that had been laid out too. ![]() Oh well, I'm certainly no pinnacle of perfection my friends .   The inclusion of other items would tend to distract from our purpose here; plus we'd become just another ethnographic forum .           
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			Thank you gentlemen. I think I have a clear understanding now---I might not have in 6 months time, but at the moment I'm OK. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I had in my mind that we were more or less exclusively keris, that's really the whole reason for our being, but the problem is that lines get a bit blurred sometimes. Keris and tombak are certainly spiritual brothers, but then keris and some pedang are physical brothers---maybe even spiritual as well.For instance I have pedang with kembang kacang and sogokan, and with luk. Then there are those Bali/Lombok things---what are they called?---ligan. Is this a pedang that is keris-like, or a keris that is pedang-like? What about Lombok cundrik? Blumbangan and sogokan. Sorry fellers, it gets hard for me. But keris + tombak sounds good for the moment.  | 
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