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Old 16th September 2007, 07:54 PM   #1
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Well if he has got that many pieces thats incredible, he could build the most arms impresive museam in the world!

But its still true that If he looked at each piece for five minutes, non stop for 10 hours a day evry day it would take him 15years!

Its a pity there arnt more photos of his collection online.

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I see that you are at your best dividing 500 000 by time minutes ... without even a break for tea ( or pee ).
And what kind of 500 000 ... weapons or objects ? if it is objects, you can look to an entire row at same time. Therefore that is cheating
I have seen pictures with tulwars, samshirs and the like, stuffed in antique clay pots ... with a glimpse you can look at lots of them ... i can scan you pictures of these.
Come on Spiral?!
What has happened to your IQ ?
Where did you pick that 500 000 figure from ?
Some guy without controll of decimals ?
I find it rather implausible, even considering the so many bullets he acquires from firemen who pick them from the bushes when they act in the area of Lisbon defences, built for the Napoleonic invasions in 1809 ... remember Wellington ?
I bought him some of these bullets ... as many as the ones he doesn't need to look at any more.
Judging by the kukris i have already seen at his shop, i wouln't be surpised if he had a good number of them in his private collection. I remeber seing years ago in his Cascais shop a huge one, with a blade about half meter long ( almost two feet in your language ). I don't know if this was a decoration piece or what but, if memory helps, it had a label warning for its dangerous sharpeness. Probably you also find this hard to beleive but, this time, it is i who stand above that
I also told Emanuel that he has several pieces spread by various Museums and exhibitions, so that is another quantity that he is prevented to look at
But if the amount of weaponry and accessory obects he holds is a matter for your preoccupation, i can phone the girl at the Amoreiras shop and ask her for the right number.
After all, and if the business is on the basis of presumption, i would advance that your kukris collection, as big as it may be, would fit in one of the drawers at his mannor house ... don't take it bad .
And once you mentioned something about sword blades, i can tell you about a certain rapier blade that i bought the other day in a flea market and have posted in this Forum for apreciation. I had bought the thing for 50 euros and, when i showed it to him for identification, i don't know what he found in it that he offered me for it 500 euros discount in any piece i wanted to pick at his shop. This blade was surely usefull for him, as he told me that he had lots of others kept in "big bertha " cannon shells ... you know these, don't you ? No need to tell he is a rather wealthy guy, and he surely buys anything interesting that moves around.
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Old 16th September 2007, 08:11 PM   #2
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Hi Fernando,

The figure of five hundred thousand pieces is given by Antonio Conceicao on the link you provided . How many of these are weapons is open to debate I guess, but I assume Mr. Daenhardt would need some sort of warehouse besides his mannor to store them adequately.

Ariel, thanks for posting the gaddara pics. The sword immediately brought to mind the sabre attributed to Charlemagne.
Interesting that gaddara sounds a lot like qaddara, albeit a completely different sword form.

I don't want to hijack the thread but speaking of foreign influences, what we call a firangi is, according to E. Jaiwant Paul, called so only when a trade blade is involved. Otherwise it is called a dhup or alternatively a sukhela (Arms and Armour: Traditional Weapons of India, p.56)

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Old 16th September 2007, 10:43 PM   #3
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Hi Fernando,

The figure of five hundred thousand pieces is given by Antonio Conceicao on the link you provided . How many of these are weapons is open to debate I guess, but I assume Mr. Daenhardt would need some sort of warehouse besides his mannor to store them adequately.

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Hi Emanuel
I have passed the link with no other intention than showing the only material plubished in the net with an aproach to Rainer Daehnhardt's collection. He seems not to worry to advance with some material himself, or even invite others to do it for him. I didn't even mind about the 500 000 pieces allusion, as i would never subscribe it, unless an extraordinary interpretation was added to support such aparently absurd figure. Otherwise and to put it elegantly, i would say this was a misprint.
I don't even know if Antonio noticed this, and or if has an explanation to that. Naturaly he doesn't even know i am using the link in this context, but it is published and has free access.
Some time ago i was talking to Daenhardt's shop senior employee about his collection universe, and she mentioned some figure where the term thousand was aplicable. I just don't remember how many thousands she mentioned, but surely not five hundred of them, i would say.
I think he might have some supporting storage facilities. Last time i have been there, he spoke about a house he had with large weapons quantities, which during the revolution period the left wing government wanted to nationalize, issuing a requisition for the house and the pieces. He has appealed against that measure and all he could get was to be paid for both house and collection, but he had to let them go. Maybe he has other facilities, i wouldn't be surprised.
Remember however that a great collection of manuscripts, maps, portolanos and that kind of stuff easily ascends to large amounts and doesn't require that much space to store, as relatively easy to stack in large numbers.
... in a consensual expression, of course.
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