Angle between ganja and pesi

Michel · 7th September 2007, 02:03 PM

Thank you Alan,
Your methodology has a given chronology:
1) make a pattern of the blade,
2) set the correct angle between the pesi and the blade on the pattern
3) draw the ganja
4) cut the ganja pattern and adjust it
5) forge your keris to shape
in summary you make a complete an exact pattern of the complete blade and ganja before starting to forge.
I did that the wrong way, starting forging before having a pattern of the blade, let alone the one of the ganja and I am now with a piece of thick layered metal with the shape you can see on the photo and I will try to bring it to the shape of the pattern next to it. Secondly, as I have not cut the metal to make the ganja from my piece of layered metal and have already forge the pesi, I will have to make the ganja out of an other piece of layered metal from a previous heat welding exercise. This is all due to lack of planning as we did not start with the idea to forge a keris blade but to make an exercise in heat welding nickel and iron. But to our surprise we succeeded in heat welding a few layers and thought that it would be a pity not to utilize the results of our efforts.
This is not going to be a reference keris (!) but the exercise will certainly teach me a lot.
Thanks again for all your advices.
By the way, we have moves the forge and the anvil from my place to my son's place and following your advices have now an improve forging situation.
Kind regards
Michel

kai · 7th September 2007, 07:46 PM

Hello Michel,

How about trying a ganja iras keris this time? That should fit with the stage you're at, and it's probably less difficult, anyway...

Regards,
Kai

7th September 2007, 02:03 PM	#1
Michel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 139	Forging methodology Thank you Alan, Your methodology has a given chronology: 1) make a pattern of the blade, 2) set the correct angle between the pesi and the blade on the pattern 3) draw the ganja 4) cut the ganja pattern and adjust it 5) forge your keris to shape in summary you make a complete an exact pattern of the complete blade and ganja before starting to forge. I did that the wrong way, starting forging before having a pattern of the blade, let alone the one of the ganja and I am now with a piece of thick layered metal with the shape you can see on the photo and I will try to bring it to the shape of the pattern next to it. Secondly, as I have not cut the metal to make the ganja from my piece of layered metal and have already forge the pesi, I will have to make the ganja out of an other piece of layered metal from a previous heat welding exercise. This is all due to lack of planning as we did not start with the idea to forge a keris blade but to make an exercise in heat welding nickel and iron. But to our surprise we succeeded in heat welding a few layers and thought that it would be a pity not to utilize the results of our efforts. This is not going to be a reference keris (!) but the exercise will certainly teach me a lot. Thanks again for all your advices. By the way, we have moves the forge and the anvil from my place to my son's place and following your advices have now an improve forging situation. Kind regards Michel

7th September 2007, 07:46 PM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Michel, How about trying a ganja iras keris this time? That should fit with the stage you're at, and it's probably less difficult, anyway... Regards, Kai