A sucker is born every minute!

Andrew · 6th September 2007, 07:32 PM

The only thing I've done in recent years is contact sellers that blatently plagiarize something I personally wrote (or collaborated on) for an item's description.

I've never received any response to that type of communication.

Bill M · 6th September 2007, 07:46 PM

VANDOO · 6th September 2007, 09:00 PM

"YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CANNOT MAKE HIM DRINK"

MY FAVORITE STORY OF THAT TYPE IS.

I WAS AT A LOCAL GUN SHOW AND SAW A DEALER WITH A VERY LARGE PIECE OF SAMOAN TAPPA CLOTH. WHEN I WENT OVER TO LOOK AT IT HE HAD IT IDENTIFED AS A RARE SOUIX WAR BLANKET AND HAD A VERY HIGH PRICE ON IT. I TOLD HIM WHAT IT REALLY WAS EVEN EXPLAINING THE WAY IT WAS MADE AND THE MATERIALS USED AND SOME OF THE DESIGNS, PRICE WAS NOT MENTIONED.
I WENT BACK BY HIS BOOTH THE NEXT DAY AND LOOKED AT IT AND NOTHING HAD BEEN CHANGED. I AM SURE SOUIX WILL BRING MORE MONEY THAN SAMOAN TAPA SO HE WAS NOT ABOUT TO CHANGE IT EVEN IF HE KNEW I WAS RIGHT. PERHAPS HE WAS TAKEN BY SOMEONE WHEN HE BOUGHT IT AND WAS DETERMINED TO HANG ON TO IT AND NOT LOSE MONEY AND HOPE TO UNLOAD IT ON SOME OTHER SUCKER. IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR PEOPLE TO IGNORE ADVICE GIVEN OR ARGUE AS THEY DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THEY ARE WRONG.

VARIOUS TYPES OF SCAMS ARE BECOMING MORE COMMON ON EBAY AS THE PENALTYS ARE SMALL AND THE POTENTIAL FOR PROFIT GOOD. THIS YEAR I HAVE HAD THE FIRST TWO EBAY SELLERS TAKE MY MONEY AND THEN FOLD UP THEIR TENTS AND DISSAPEAR INTO THE NIGHT. EBAY WAS OF NO HELP AND THE SELLER NEVER DID ANSWER ANY EMAILS OR SEND MY ITEMS, I DID WATCH AND SEE THE FEEDBACK GO DOWN TO LOWER THAN CONGRESS CURRENT RATEINGS SO THAT TELLS ME I WAS NOT ALONE. THE SELLER WILL NO DOUBT BE FREE TO OPEN UP AGAIN UNDER ANOTHER NAME AND ADDRESS AND DO IT AGAIN IN FUTURE. ONE SELLER WAS IN BORNEO AND THE OTHER WAS IN CHINA, THE ONE IN CHINA WAS SELLING UNDER 3 DIFFERENT NAMES AND UNLOADED A LOT OF MERCHANDISE. PERHAPS CHINA IS TRYING TO GET A REPUTATION LIKE NIGERIA FOR SCAMS, FRAUD, CONS AND RIP OFFS.

Bill M · 6th September 2007, 09:07 PM

There seem to be two broad categories of sellers. Those that know they are selling fakes and those that have been misinformed. Usually neither want to hear our truth.

My favorite story, Barry, is about the boy scout who comes home beat up. His mother asked him what happened? He said, "I was trying to help an old lady cross the street and she didn't want to go!"

I usually fail -- in fact I am failing right now by writing this -- I TRY NOT to offer unsolicited advice.

The Berbers have a saying, "He who tells the truth better have one foot in the stirrup!"

spiral · 6th September 2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

". ONE SELLER WAS IN BORNEO AND THE OTHER WAS IN CHINA, THE ONE IN CHINA WAS SELLING UNDER 3 DIFFERENT NAMES AND UNLOADED A LOT OF MERCHANDISE. PERHAPS CHINA IS TRYING TO GET A REPUTATION LIKE NIGERIA FOR SCAMS, FRAUD, CONS AND RIP OFFS.

Those 2 plus South Africa, Malaya & Ukraine are all such high risks I wont buy from them & have risked negative feedback by saying cash only to buyers from them, despite usualy saying paypal only.

Just look up credit card Fraud & see who tops the lists, mostly its the same for all web Fraud. My local Brit. post office say 45% of parcels sent to south Africa are reported as not delivered & claims made against the senders or Insaurance.

Sad thing is when Ive pointed out fakes to the ebay sellers, the few honest ones, who are big enough to accept the evidence I offer & who change their discription to say theve been told it fake dont even get a buyer usualy. Lies usualy pay 3x to 4x the truth on ebay sadley. {for kukris anyway.}

Spiral

6th September 2007, 07:32 PM	#1
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	The only thing I've done in recent years is contact sellers that blatently plagiarize something I personally wrote (or collaborated on) for an item's description. I've never received any response to that type of communication.

6th September 2007, 07:46 PM	#2
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599

6th September 2007, 09:00 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	"YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CANNOT MAKE HIM DRINK" MY FAVORITE STORY OF THAT TYPE IS. I WAS AT A LOCAL GUN SHOW AND SAW A DEALER WITH A VERY LARGE PIECE OF SAMOAN TAPPA CLOTH. WHEN I WENT OVER TO LOOK AT IT HE HAD IT IDENTIFED AS A RARE SOUIX WAR BLANKET AND HAD A VERY HIGH PRICE ON IT. I TOLD HIM WHAT IT REALLY WAS EVEN EXPLAINING THE WAY IT WAS MADE AND THE MATERIALS USED AND SOME OF THE DESIGNS, PRICE WAS NOT MENTIONED. I WENT BACK BY HIS BOOTH THE NEXT DAY AND LOOKED AT IT AND NOTHING HAD BEEN CHANGED. I AM SURE SOUIX WILL BRING MORE MONEY THAN SAMOAN TAPA SO HE WAS NOT ABOUT TO CHANGE IT EVEN IF HE KNEW I WAS RIGHT. PERHAPS HE WAS TAKEN BY SOMEONE WHEN HE BOUGHT IT AND WAS DETERMINED TO HANG ON TO IT AND NOT LOSE MONEY AND HOPE TO UNLOAD IT ON SOME OTHER SUCKER. IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR PEOPLE TO IGNORE ADVICE GIVEN OR ARGUE AS THEY DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THEY ARE WRONG. VARIOUS TYPES OF SCAMS ARE BECOMING MORE COMMON ON EBAY AS THE PENALTYS ARE SMALL AND THE POTENTIAL FOR PROFIT GOOD. THIS YEAR I HAVE HAD THE FIRST TWO EBAY SELLERS TAKE MY MONEY AND THEN FOLD UP THEIR TENTS AND DISSAPEAR INTO THE NIGHT. EBAY WAS OF NO HELP AND THE SELLER NEVER DID ANSWER ANY EMAILS OR SEND MY ITEMS, I DID WATCH AND SEE THE FEEDBACK GO DOWN TO LOWER THAN CONGRESS CURRENT RATEINGS SO THAT TELLS ME I WAS NOT ALONE. THE SELLER WILL NO DOUBT BE FREE TO OPEN UP AGAIN UNDER ANOTHER NAME AND ADDRESS AND DO IT AGAIN IN FUTURE. ONE SELLER WAS IN BORNEO AND THE OTHER WAS IN CHINA, THE ONE IN CHINA WAS SELLING UNDER 3 DIFFERENT NAMES AND UNLOADED A LOT OF MERCHANDISE. PERHAPS CHINA IS TRYING TO GET A REPUTATION LIKE NIGERIA FOR SCAMS, FRAUD, CONS AND RIP OFFS.

6th September 2007, 09:07 PM	#4
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	There seem to be two broad categories of sellers. Those that know they are selling fakes and those that have been misinformed. Usually neither want to hear our truth. My favorite story, Barry, is about the boy scout who comes home beat up. His mother asked him what happened? He said, "I was trying to help an old lady cross the street and she didn't want to go!" I usually fail -- in fact I am failing right now by writing this -- I TRY NOT to offer unsolicited advice. The Berbers have a saying, "He who tells the truth better have one foot in the stirrup!"