Short bladed tulwar

Lew · 20th August 2007, 12:01 AM

Here is a close up of tip and koftgari on the spine. Ham was able to translate it and it reads "THERE IS NO HERO LIKE 'ALI AND SWORD LIKE DHUL'FAKAR".

Lew

Ian · 20th August 2007, 01:37 AM

Lew:

The blade looks as though it has been shortened to me. The broad fuller runs right through the tip area. Perhaps an old favorite that broke and someone had it reworked (albeit a very good reshaping).

Ian.

Lew · 20th August 2007, 01:59 AM

Ian

I thought the same thing but the axis of the tip would be all wrong if you added 8-10 inches. The fuller runs lower than the tip. I also checked the hardened edge and it wraps up and around the the top of the tip. So if it were shortened it would have to have been reheat treated to have that effect at the tip.

Lew

CharlesS · 20th August 2007, 03:04 AM

I think it is simply a secondary side arm, and a darn nice one.

Tim Simmons · 20th August 2007, 10:18 AM

I agree with Ian and Charles. I think it may have been altered purposely and expertly creating a heavy cutting weapon rather like a barong. To me it looks like it handles very nicely. Very nice.

katana · 20th August 2007, 05:54 PM

Hi Lew
whereabouts is the 'point of balance'....it may help to determine whether this sword was shortened or made that size

BBJW · 20th August 2007, 06:56 PM

IMHO the blade was broken at some point and redone. I have some European swords in my collection that either been period shortened or broken and then saw naval usage. This piece was obviously too nice to be discarded or given to a child.

bbjw

Lew · 22nd August 2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katana

Hi Lew
whereabouts is the 'point of balance'....it may help to determine whether this sword was shortened or made that size

4.5 inches foward of the cross guard.

Lew

20th August 2007, 12:01 AM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here is a close up of tip and koftgari on the spine. Ham was able to translate it and it reads "THERE IS NO HERO LIKE 'ALI AND SWORD LIKE DHUL'FAKAR". Lew Attached Images Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 20th August 2007 at 12:16 AM.

20th August 2007, 01:59 AM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Ian I thought the same thing but the axis of the tip would be all wrong if you added 8-10 inches. The fuller runs lower than the tip. I also checked the hardened edge and it wraps up and around the the top of the tip. So if it were shortened it would have to have been reheat treated to have that effect at the tip. Lew Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 20th August 2007 at 02:35 AM.

20th August 2007, 06:56 PM	#7
BBJW Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho, USA Posts: 230	Broken IMHO the blade was broken at some point and redone. I have some European swords in my collection that either been period shortened or broken and then saw naval usage. This piece was obviously too nice to be discarded or given to a child. bbjw

20th August 2007, 01:37 AM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,523	Lew: The blade looks as though it has been shortened to me. The broad fuller runs right through the tip area. Perhaps an old favorite that broke and someone had it reworked (albeit a very good reshaping). Ian.

20th August 2007, 03:04 AM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	I think it is simply a secondary side arm, and a darn nice one.

20th August 2007, 10:18 AM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	I agree with Ian and Charles. I think it may have been altered purposely and expertly creating a heavy cutting weapon rather like a barong. To me it looks like it handles very nicely. Very nice.

20th August 2007, 05:54 PM	#6
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi Lew whereabouts is the 'point of balance'....it may help to determine whether this sword was shortened or made that size