Can we call this a rapier blade ?

fernando · 13th August 2007, 03:08 PM

Hi Marc,
Much obliged for the authentic treatise.
Its amazing how famous names and their consequent image have been "abused" since long time ago untill recent days. I am aware that at least in some cases, the misspelling of names was not due to ignorance but a resource to prevent the law to process you for counterfeit. It just comes to my mind the famous Spanish blue jeans maker "LOIS", which had a Portuguese imitator that marked the jeans with the brand "LOES". Up to a certain extent the popular Spanish motor car SEAT is much too similar in sound to its Italian originated FIAT, pass the coincidence. Not to speak of Zara ( the clothes company ), which has all possible misspellings in shops around here ( and possibly Spain ) to take advantage of that enterprise's image.
I am still glad that my blade is actual very old stuff, although with a forged name. In a way, like in coins and stamps, period abnormalities have their own added value

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Now i will go digest all your teachings on the blade subject.
Un gran saludo.
fernando

Jim McDougall · 14th August 2007, 05:34 AM

Marc,
Eloquently written and beautifully said!!! This blade was indeed a warrior, and you have presented an excellent history for it. Thank you for going into such detail concerning these blades. While I knew the 18th century 'dragoon' blades we have discussed many times concerning Spanish colonial swords and with the famed 'Spanish motto' indeed came from Solingen, I had not thought of these having the same origins.
I learn more on these swords every time you write and was looking forward to your response

Thanks again!
Very best regards,
Jim

Chris Evans · 14th August 2007, 07:17 AM

Hi Fernando,

Many thanks for that information. Sent you a PM

Cheers
Chris

13th August 2007, 03:08 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	MOLTES GRÀCIES Hi Marc, Much obliged for the authentic treatise. Its amazing how famous names and their consequent image have been "abused" since long time ago untill recent days. I am aware that at least in some cases, the misspelling of names was not due to ignorance but a resource to prevent the law to process you for counterfeit. It just comes to my mind the famous Spanish blue jeans maker "LOIS", which had a Portuguese imitator that marked the jeans with the brand "LOES". Up to a certain extent the popular Spanish motor car SEAT is much too similar in sound to its Italian originated FIAT, pass the coincidence. Not to speak of Zara ( the clothes company ), which has all possible misspellings in shops around here ( and possibly Spain ) to take advantage of that enterprise's image. I am still glad that my blade is actual very old stuff, although with a forged name. In a way, like in coins and stamps, period abnormalities have their own added value . Now i will go digest all your teachings on the blade subject. Un gran saludo. fernando Last edited by fernando; 14th August 2007 at 11:31 AM. Reason: Words addition

14th August 2007, 05:34 AM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,587	Marc, Eloquently written and beautifully said!!! This blade was indeed a warrior, and you have presented an excellent history for it. Thank you for going into such detail concerning these blades. While I knew the 18th century 'dragoon' blades we have discussed many times concerning Spanish colonial swords and with the famed 'Spanish motto' indeed came from Solingen, I had not thought of these having the same origins. I learn more on these swords every time you write and was looking forward to your response Thanks again! Very best regards, Jim

14th August 2007, 07:17 AM	#3
Chris Evans Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 685	Hi Fernando, Many thanks for that information. Sent you a PM Cheers Chris