iron ignot?

Flavio · 18th July 2007, 03:41 PM

Hey Jens, seems an X-file

Ian · 18th July 2007, 03:54 PM

The file Jens referred to is here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1410

Jens Nordlunde · 18th July 2007, 04:19 PM

Flavio, it almost is, but not quite

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Ian, thank you for helping me, for some reason or other, I could not copy the link, and so I gave the thread name instead

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Eftihis, I am no expert on ingots, to me it looks more like a mill ball, but I think those who know the difference should tell you. There is, however, one thing you can do, and that is to grind a bit of the surface away and try to etch the raw metal. This would give you an indication, as I understand it, but only an indication – good luck

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Mark · 18th July 2007, 04:21 PM

It looks like an ingot to me. They can be mixed up with milling balls, which are used to crush ore, but I think those are round.

Ann Feuerbach or Ric Furrer are the authorities on this stuff. Paging Drs. Feuerbach & Furrer ...

Jens Nordlunde · 18th July 2007, 04:34 PM

I may be wrong, but i think it was Jeff Pringle who pointed us in the direction of the mill balls.

ariel · 18th July 2007, 11:19 PM

As per Eftihis, this piece is not round at all: it is polygonal and looks as if it was purposefully made this way.
I see no reason for wootz ingots to be shaped like that and no explanation for a spontaneous formation of a complex geometrical feature. Some kind of weight measure?

sabertasche · 19th July 2007, 05:57 AM

I think weight measures are usually marked with whatever weight they are supposed to be. I suspect that unless you polish and etch it to see if there are cementite and pearlite particles you will never know.

Another fantasy theory my be that this really is a canon ball but for use against non Christians. Just a theory, of course.

greg

Tim Simmons · 19th July 2007, 06:48 AM

Grape shot or a lump of canister shot? It would not have to be well formed like a cannon ball?

18th July 2007, 03:54 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,367	Old file ... The file Jens referred to is here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1410

18th July 2007, 04:19 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Flavio, it almost is, but not quite. Ian, thank you for helping me, for some reason or other, I could not copy the link, and so I gave the thread name instead. Eftihis, I am no expert on ingots, to me it looks more like a mill ball, but I think those who know the difference should tell you. There is, however, one thing you can do, and that is to grind a bit of the surface away and try to etch the raw metal. This would give you an indication, as I understand it, but only an indication – good luck.

18th July 2007, 11:19 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	As per Eftihis, this piece is not round at all: it is polygonal and looks as if it was purposefully made this way. I see no reason for wootz ingots to be shaped like that and no explanation for a spontaneous formation of a complex geometrical feature. Some kind of weight measure? Last edited by ariel; 19th July 2007 at 03:39 AM.

18th July 2007, 03:41 PM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hey Jens, seems an X-file

18th July 2007, 04:21 PM	#4
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	It looks like an ingot to me. They can be mixed up with milling balls, which are used to crush ore, but I think those are round. Ann Feuerbach or Ric Furrer are the authorities on this stuff. Paging Drs. Feuerbach & Furrer ...

18th July 2007, 04:34 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I may be wrong, but i think it was Jeff Pringle who pointed us in the direction of the mill balls.

19th July 2007, 05:57 AM	#7
sabertasche Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 149	I think weight measures are usually marked with whatever weight they are supposed to be. I suspect that unless you polish and etch it to see if there are cementite and pearlite particles you will never know. Another fantasy theory my be that this really is a canon ball but for use against non Christians. Just a theory, of course. greg

19th July 2007, 06:48 AM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	Grape shot or a lump of canister shot? It would not have to be well formed like a cannon ball?