What is this pamor called?

stekemest · 7th July 2007, 01:44 PM

Hi,

I finally managed to get some pictures. It's not my keris, that's why I didn't have some.

Pretty bad condition, hope the pictures help. I don't think it's possible to say something about the place or date of manufacture, is it?

Thank you all.
Peter

ganjawulung · 7th July 2007, 02:34 PM

Hi Peter,

If the blade is stained in warangan liquid, then the pamor would be beras wutah. The lines in the border of the blade, are the layers of the keris' metal. They are not the pamor. The dapur of the keris is tilamupih, and typically Tuban keris. I can not tell you the tangguh, based on only pictures. But, I guess it was "Tuban Mataram" (Tuban type keris, but was made during Mataram era). Of course, I maybe wrong... At least, that's my guess.

Ganjawulung

stekemest · 7th July 2007, 04:57 PM

Hi ganjawulung!

Thank you very much for your opinion. So this keris could date to the 14th - 16th century?

And why is the dapur not brojol? Thought it looked exactly like this.

Thanks again,
Peter

ganjawulung · 7th July 2007, 05:40 PM

Dear Peter,

Between dapur tilampupih and brojol is "slightly" different. And the difference lies on the "ricikan" or details of the blade. If your straight keris has a "tikel alis" (Cahaya, If you don't mind, would you draw the "tikel alis" for me, on Peter's picture please...). But if without tikel alis, then your keris is brojol.

Ganjawulung

ganjawulung · 7th July 2007, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Dear Peter,

Between dapur tilampupih and brojol is "slightly" different...

Sorry correction,
Tilamupih

cahaya · 8th July 2007, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Dear Peter,

Between dapur tilampupih and brojol is "slightly" different. And the difference lies on the "ricikan" or details of the blade. If your straight keris has a "tikel alis" (Cahaya, If you don't mind, would you draw the "tikel alis" for me, on Peter's picture please...). But if without tikel alis, then your keris is brojol.

Ganjawulung

Hi peter, Gonjo and all

sorry ican get Peter's picture,...Peter can you re-send the picture please?

thanks
cahaya

A. G. Maisey · 10th July 2007, 02:35 AM

Pics???

7th July 2007, 02:34 PM	#2
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Beras Wutah Hi Peter, If the blade is stained in warangan liquid, then the pamor would be beras wutah. The lines in the border of the blade, are the layers of the keris' metal. They are not the pamor. The dapur of the keris is tilamupih, and typically Tuban keris. I can not tell you the tangguh, based on only pictures. But, I guess it was "Tuban Mataram" (Tuban type keris, but was made during Mataram era). Of course, I maybe wrong... At least, that's my guess. Ganjawulung

7th July 2007, 01:44 PM	#1
stekemest Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 183	Hi, I finally managed to get some pictures. It's not my keris, that's why I didn't have some. Pretty bad condition, hope the pictures help. I don't think it's possible to say something about the place or date of manufacture, is it? Thank you all. Peter

7th July 2007, 04:57 PM	#3
stekemest Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 183	Hi ganjawulung! Thank you very much for your opinion. So this keris could date to the 14th - 16th century? And why is the dapur not brojol? Thought it looked exactly like this. Thanks again, Peter

7th July 2007, 05:40 PM	#4
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Dear Peter, Between dapur tilampupih and brojol is "slightly" different. And the difference lies on the "ricikan" or details of the blade. If your straight keris has a "tikel alis" (Cahaya, If you don't mind, would you draw the "tikel alis" for me, on Peter's picture please...). But if without tikel alis, then your keris is brojol. Ganjawulung

10th July 2007, 02:35 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Pics???