Rare Dayak Daggers - Sadop and Dohong

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Originally Posted by Dajak

YOUR TRANSLATION IS NOT RIGHT ABOUT WHAT SCHWANER SAYS

That is what I mean the whole time read it like it is .

Muller has taken some weapons and is writing about that the dohung is not an dayak weapon tells you in Juynboll that these are story s .

What weapon did Schwaner take to the museum for weapons ?

Schwaner talks about the parang as an Weapon that was before the mandau this is could be true . but dohung is no proof.

sometimes people wanna believe something and has nothing to do if one is an
outstanding collector or not who make rules if one is an good or bad collector.

Translation is

that in that ....part of borneo .....the shield and mandau came in later (that part and not counting for whole Borneo) but now in that time common the dohung must be after what they tell him a weapon from there ancestors (but they don t now for sure)
also tells that the dohung is from an other culture .

If we believe Stone the pandat is the weapon off the seadayaks IBANS
is this true because he says it . proof did bring us that it must be an land dayak weapon

Ben

HI Ben,

I never told anywhere that the Pandat isn't the weapon of the Iban.
But the Iban settled later on Borneo than the Ngadjoe and Ot Danum.
I also didn't tell that the Dohung was in use by all Dayaks.
As you have read you see that wrote that the Dohung was in use among the Ngadjoe and the Ot Danum.
Of course the Dohunghilts did come from another country course they used Ivory for it and you can't find that on Borneo.
But not all Dohongs have Ivory hilts and not all Dohungs have the same shape.

Arjan.

Arjan.

[Dajak]

Arjan the pandat is not the weapon off the Iban
I only try to say that what someone put up in an books does not have to be right it could be his interpetation .

what proof do you have that the Iban setteld later on Borneo

Ben

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Originally Posted by Dajak

Arjan the pandat is not the weapon off the Iban
I only try to say that what someone put up in an books does not have to be right it could be his interpetation .

what proof do you have that the Iban setteld later on Borneo

Ben

Hi Ben,

getting a little tired I totally agree with your words "sometimes people wanna believe something".


regards,

Arjan.