P a t r e m -- The Smaller Keris

HanaChu69 · 6th June 2007, 01:50 PM

Greetings everyone,

Alam Shah – Thank you for the warm welcome. I realized that there are quite a handful of familiar collectors here who participated in other keris forums as well. Hmm..that’s the beauty of networking with diversified culture and languages..

I have to agree that the latest topics are getting my attention too especially the one on “keris and spirit”.

Ganjawulung – Thank you for the creative welcome and I like the new term used “maternity” pamor..I wonder what significance it has in your life. Is there any miracle in you getting more children and being productive?

Oh..I’m curious as to why do you need to renew the “greneng”. My surprise to see such action is allowed in Solo but not in Yogya. Are there any specific reasons? My preferences are for older blade and the more jaded the better. Btw, what is your understanding of Majapahit patrem?

Thanks,
HanaChu69

P.S – I’m new to the keris world and apologized for the many questions asked.

David · 6th June 2007, 02:39 PM

Welcome Hana. For some reason i also seem to have a special interest in patrem.

Don't be afraid to ask too many questions. That is how we all learn. And just because you are new to the keris world doesn't mean you have nothing to offer yourself. I look forward to your continuing participation.

HanaChu69 · 8th June 2007, 08:02 PM

Hi David,

Thank you for your kind understanding. I want to be clear on certain guidelines in asking too many questions. If more newbies like me were to come on board, I’m sure this warung will be chaotic. By then, I think you will prefer to have more ghost readers than members being too talkative.

I’m thankful to Ganjawulung who has created this thread to bring forth the discussion on patrem. To date, I’m still reading on them. I will continue my participation as long as I’m welcome here.

HanaChu69

David · 8th June 2007, 09:19 PM

Hana, be sure to check into the search function on this forum. You can search the old forum as well. You might find answers to many of your questions have already been posted.

Look at our name Hana. We are like a coffee house. You can't get too talkative in a coffee house.

HanaChu69 · 10th June 2007, 06:11 PM

Hi David,

Thank you for the tips for it’s quite a handful to read. No worries, I will pose questions if there’s any doubts.

As for being too talkative, you have to specify the scenario. Is it coffee house by the roadside, cybercafé or food court? At the end of the day, there must be mutual respect among us. I guess we will have to take turns or take queue numbers if indeed the coffee house gets too heated up or noisy one day…

ganjawulung · 12th June 2007, 08:25 AM

Dear All,

Again, I present to you some pictures. This time again, about patrem. What would you call a "medium size" keris which is a little bigger than patrem, but smaller than the normal keris? (See picture, keris in the middle).

I have some kerises with sizes like this: smaller than the normal kerises, but bigger than patrem. The sheath is like normal kerises (second picture below). Please enlighten me...

Ganjawulung

HanaChu69 · 11th July 2007, 05:54 PM

Hi Ganjawulung

Do you mind giving the overall dimension of the “medium size” keris? I guess this thread has been neglected as there maybe only a handful of patrem collectors. I’m trying to collate references on patrem and asking around for more referencing link.

Looking forward to share my findings and would appreciate input from the others as well.

Sincerely,
Hana

6th June 2007, 01:50 PM	#1
HanaChu69 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 29	Cool!! Greetings everyone, Alam Shah – Thank you for the warm welcome. I realized that there are quite a handful of familiar collectors here who participated in other keris forums as well. Hmm..that’s the beauty of networking with diversified culture and languages.. I have to agree that the latest topics are getting my attention too especially the one on “keris and spirit”. Ganjawulung – Thank you for the creative welcome and I like the new term used “maternity” pamor..I wonder what significance it has in your life. Is there any miracle in you getting more children and being productive? Oh..I’m curious as to why do you need to renew the “greneng”. My surprise to see such action is allowed in Solo but not in Yogya. Are there any specific reasons? My preferences are for older blade and the more jaded the better. Btw, what is your understanding of Majapahit patrem? Thanks, HanaChu69 P.S – I’m new to the keris world and apologized for the many questions asked.

8th June 2007, 08:02 PM	#3
HanaChu69 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 29	Cool!! Hi David, Thank you for your kind understanding. I want to be clear on certain guidelines in asking too many questions. If more newbies like me were to come on board, I’m sure this warung will be chaotic. By then, I think you will prefer to have more ghost readers than members being too talkative. I’m thankful to Ganjawulung who has created this thread to bring forth the discussion on patrem. To date, I’m still reading on them. I will continue my participation as long as I’m welcome here. HanaChu69

10th June 2007, 06:11 PM	#5
HanaChu69 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 29	Cool!! Hi David, Thank you for the tips for it’s quite a handful to read. No worries, I will pose questions if there’s any doubts. As for being too talkative, you have to specify the scenario. Is it coffee house by the roadside, cybercafé or food court? At the end of the day, there must be mutual respect among us. I guess we will have to take turns or take queue numbers if indeed the coffee house gets too heated up or noisy one day…

12th June 2007, 08:25 AM	#6
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Medium Patrem? Dear All, Again, I present to you some pictures. This time again, about patrem. What would you call a "medium size" keris which is a little bigger than patrem, but smaller than the normal keris? (See picture, keris in the middle). I have some kerises with sizes like this: smaller than the normal kerises, but bigger than patrem. The sheath is like normal kerises (second picture below). Please enlighten me... Ganjawulung Attached Images

6th June 2007, 02:39 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Welcome Hana. For some reason i also seem to have a special interest in patrem. Don't be afraid to ask too many questions. That is how we all learn. And just because you are new to the keris world doesn't mean you have nothing to offer yourself. I look forward to your continuing participation.

8th June 2007, 09:19 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Hana, be sure to check into the search function on this forum. You can search the old forum as well. You might find answers to many of your questions have already been posted. Look at our name Hana. We are like a coffee house. You can't get too talkative in a coffee house.

11th July 2007, 05:54 PM	#7
HanaChu69 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 29	Hi Ganjawulung Do you mind giving the overall dimension of the “medium size” keris? I guess this thread has been neglected as there maybe only a handful of patrem collectors. I’m trying to collate references on patrem and asking around for more referencing link. Looking forward to share my findings and would appreciate input from the others as well. Sincerely, Hana