bali keris for comment

David · 31st May 2007, 08:01 PM

Actually Ron, if you ask me (i suppose i am an optimist

) i would say that the keris is in pretty good shape. Even if you can't restore the sheath, the blade looks great. Needs a good wash and a proper staining, but it has held up rather well, especially considering where it has been living over the years and it's lack of care.
As Lew points out, uwers (mendak) are fairly easy to come by and relatively cheap, even for a silver one.
I can't see if any of the actual wood is missing, but if not you can probably restore the sheath to some form of usefulness.
If you don't want to undertake such a project send it to me. I might not give it back to you afterwards, but i will give it a good home.

Alam Shah · 1st June 2007, 09:06 AM

Hi Ron, nice blade... based on what can be seen, the pamor should be nice as well. I don't think the pamor is udan mas. It looks more like bendo segodo, based on the faint pamor.

The sheath is salvagable and restorable.
Regarding other parts, others had given their opinions.

A. G. Maisey · 1st June 2007, 09:26 AM

I concur with everything that has been said. This is an easy restoration job. and should come up brilliantly.

ronpakis · 1st June 2007, 10:43 AM

Thanks for the comments all.
With some tlc it should turn out rather nice. If it is really udan mas i don't know but tammens calls it that way so it is easily sought after if you have the book. It is almost exactly like his drawing. Im sorry but im unable to make better pictures.
What would you do with the painted part? Im considering to try and find the same colour and repaint it. Right now this is to much damaged to let it stay this way.

Greetings Ron

Alam Shah · 1st June 2007, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronpakis

... If it is really udan mas i don't know but tammens calls it that way so it is easily sought after if you have the book. It is almost exactly like his drawing. Im sorry but im unable to make better pictures...
Greetings Ron

Hi Ron,
reference from Tammens, should be in Pg 26-27, Bendo Segodo. It's not like Udas Mas, in Pg 148-149.

Here's an Udan Mas for comparison. [ example ]

ronpakis · 3rd June 2007, 04:03 PM

Hi Alam and others of course,

I can see the difference with the one in the link. But it is also not very simmilar to the bendo seggodo but then again the tammens book is just a guideline. It looks like a double bendo segodo but at some places the fifth cirkel in the middle can bee seen like in the udan mas drawing. Any ideas about the paint job?

greetings Ron

David · 13th June 2007, 01:22 PM

Asian-Keris, please check your private messages and send me a response.

asian-keris · 27th June 2007, 07:37 PM

Ron,
The painted (usually ochre colour) backside "gandar" is quite common to bali keris.
I think this sarong did't have the half pendok.
This painted backside is to prevent wear.
I have heard this paint contains arsenic components so beware when you repaint this.
best regards,
Gert-Jan

1st June 2007, 10:43 AM	#4
ronpakis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 75	restoring Thanks for the comments all. With some tlc it should turn out rather nice. If it is really udan mas i don't know but tammens calls it that way so it is easily sought after if you have the book. It is almost exactly like his drawing. Im sorry but im unable to make better pictures. What would you do with the painted part? Im considering to try and find the same colour and repaint it. Right now this is to much damaged to let it stay this way. Greetings Ron

3rd June 2007, 04:03 PM	#6
ronpakis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 75	udan mas or bendo segodo Hi Alam and others of course, I can see the difference with the one in the link. But it is also not very simmilar to the bendo seggodo but then again the tammens book is just a guideline. It looks like a double bendo segodo but at some places the fifth cirkel in the middle can bee seen like in the udan mas drawing. Any ideas about the paint job? greetings Ron

27th June 2007, 07:37 PM	#8
asian-keris Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 32	Bali gandar sarong part Ron, The painted (usually ochre colour) backside "gandar" is quite common to bali keris. I think this sarong did't have the half pendok. This painted backside is to prevent wear. I have heard this paint contains arsenic components so beware when you repaint this. best regards, Gert-Jan

31st May 2007, 08:01 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Actually Ron, if you ask me (i suppose i am an optimist ) i would say that the keris is in pretty good shape. Even if you can't restore the sheath, the blade looks great. Needs a good wash and a proper staining, but it has held up rather well, especially considering where it has been living over the years and it's lack of care. As Lew points out, uwers (mendak) are fairly easy to come by and relatively cheap, even for a silver one. I can't see if any of the actual wood is missing, but if not you can probably restore the sheath to some form of usefulness. If you don't want to undertake such a project send it to me. I might not give it back to you afterwards, but i will give it a good home.

1st June 2007, 09:06 AM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi Ron, nice blade... based on what can be seen, the pamor should be nice as well. I don't think the pamor is udan mas. It looks more like bendo segodo, based on the faint pamor. The sheath is salvagable and restorable. Regarding other parts, others had given their opinions.

1st June 2007, 09:26 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	I concur with everything that has been said. This is an easy restoration job. and should come up brilliantly.

13th June 2007, 01:22 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Asian-Keris, please check your private messages and send me a response.