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Old 28th May 2007, 02:55 PM   #1
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Gonjo,

I want to upload, asap, a tombak (lance point/top ?) with arabic inscription "laa illah ha ilallah". I just want to show that empus were not static. They influenced and were influenced. Sound...so human with humanity values.

Okay... hope everybody has samples upload the pictures

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Old 29th May 2007, 04:18 AM   #2
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Hii. All
This another my (humble) keris collection, any one remember serial movie/big screen movie : "The Saint" , like this

yours comment

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Old 30th May 2007, 06:38 PM   #3
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Raden: this last inscription, doesn't that mean: "There is no god but God.."?

Caya: The silver inlay on your piece looks like the symbol for the split sword of the Prophet.
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Old 31st May 2007, 01:32 AM   #4
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Battara, "the symbol for the split sword of the Prophet" is another way looking at it.

Cahaya, the silver inlay on your piece could be Dewangkoro ("Sun").
This is a controversial motif where the location of the human figure is concerned, as well as its character. This is considered to vary from very negative to moderately positive. It ranks with pamor Tunggul Wulan.
Position and posture of the figure are debatable.
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Old 31st May 2007, 03:01 AM   #5
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Quote:
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Battara, "the symbol for the split sword of the Prophet" is another way looking at it.

........... It ranks with pamor Tunggul Wulan.
Position and posture of the figure are debatable.
Hi. Alam.
...thanks for yours comment
May be not Tunggul Wulan but Tunggul Wulung (....Wulung=Hitam/Black)

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Old 31st May 2007, 03:01 AM   #6
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Battara, "the symbol for the split sword of the Prophet" is another way looking at it.

........... It ranks with pamor Tunggul Wulan.
Position and posture of the figure are debatable.
Hi. Alam, Batara
...thanks for yours comment

May be not Tunggul Wulan but Tunggul Wulung (....Wulung=Hitam/Black)

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Old 1st June 2007, 11:22 AM   #7
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Hi. Alam, Batara
...thanks for yours comment

May be not Tunggul Wulan but Tunggul Wulung (....Wulung=Hitam/Black)...
Yeah, Tunggul Wulung... (inherited error from Tammens).
Btw, what's your opinion on your piece?
Like to hear from you too.
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Old 4th June 2007, 05:25 AM   #8
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Hii. All
This another my (humble) keris collection, any one remember serial movie/big screen movie : "The Saint" , like this

yours comment
Yes Cahaya,

Your inscription (The Saint), actually is the picture of "sacred symbol" for Yogyakarta palace, until now. It is "Tunggul Wulung". And Tunggul Wulung in Yogyakarta, means the combination of a flag bearing such symbol, and a tombak to wave the flag. (See the picture below, from Yogyakarta Heritage but copied by KERIS Magazine, second edition)

In the picture, it was a scene in 1946 during the reign of Hamengku Buwono (HB) IX, the father of HB X now. Tunggul Wulung was carried in a procession surround Yogyakarta during the pest disease (Ill in the morning, and died in the evening). Once was also in procession in the year 1932 during HB VIII when there had been a diarrhea disease in Yogyakarta, or in 1918 during HB VII when there was "spanish dengue fever"...

I have also a keris, bearing real pamor of Tunggul Wulung in the "blumbangan" or in sor-soran. (Other pictures below). This keris was "rebought" for me, by my close friend Budiarto Danujaya -- a lecturer in the University of Indonesia. Once, around 5 years ago, I was in a "economic difficulty" and sold the keris. Budi saw the keris in a dealer's hand. He bought the keris, for only around Rp 1 juta (100 euros), because he was very familiar with that keris. He knew that the keris was mine, so he bought it for me.

Yesterday, on Sunday afternoon, I "rebought" that precious Tunggul Wulung keris from Mr Budiarto, with the same price of Rp 1 juta. So? Welcome home again, my dear Tunggul Wulung...

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Old 4th June 2007, 06:17 AM   #9
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Yesterday, on Sunday afternoon, I "rebought" that precious Tunggul Wulung Welcome home again, my dear Tunggul Wulung...

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Con.....Gonjo, I'm happy too .

Hai Alam, some people said that my keris is Tangguh Amangkuratan, but the "tunggul wulung" is new .,from tangguh Kamardhikan 20century
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Old 4th June 2007, 11:43 AM   #10
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wonderfullll.......
samples of undesigned and designed inscriptions.

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Old 4th June 2007, 12:05 PM   #11
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Guys,

I have said to upload my spear point which has inscription.
Actually, I have a kelengan spear point which has a "scorpio inscription" in one side and a "cakra round inscription" in the other side. However, last friday I lost my digital camera. So.... no chace yet to upload it
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Old 4th June 2007, 12:40 PM   #12
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