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Old 26th May 2007, 11:20 AM   #1
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Gonjo and kerislovers,

may i ask some thing?
did you face "a situation" that after having "a certain keris" your collection increased exponentially?

to kerislovers, i ask the same question. please answer.

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Hi Rd. U. Djogja,

The short answer to your question is: 'YES'.

Probably because as part of the family heirloom we have one with the inscription: 'LAA IQRAHA FIDDIEN' (in Arabic script) and another with the inscription:' na twah ram pes dina urang agamaning pare' (in Caraka script).

Strange coincidence, but just before I came online, I got a phone call from a friend who told me that there's a man in Bali who thinks that I may be interested in having his family heirloom as he can't look after it.

As for the word 'kalawija':
It comes from the word kala=time and wija=seed i.e. time for planting seed.
There is another word:'PALAwija', from phala=fruit. In some regions, one or the other is used, while in others, they are used interchangeably.
Palawija is the term used for plants grown on the earth embankments/partitions of paddy fields/fishponds.
At rice-seedling planting time, whatever other 'fruit'-bearing seeds available are planted both to secure the earthenworks and to maximise yield.
Both words are derived from an agrarian society predisposed to symbolism, usually in its simplest form i.e. relating to their everyday life/universe.

So, Kalawija/Palawija refers to something which is not the staple/norm.

Well, that's my input, for what it's worth.
Hope it helps.

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Old 26th May 2007, 03:21 PM   #2
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Probably because as part of the family heirloom we have one with the inscription: 'LAA IQRAHA FIDDIEN' (in Arabic script) and another with the inscription:' na twah ram pes dina urang agamaning pare' (in Caraka script).
Sorry Pangeran, but that is completely meaningless to ignorant Americans such as myself who don't speak these languages.
Care to translate.
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Old 26th May 2007, 04:21 PM   #3
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... but that is completely meaningless to ignorant Americans such as myself who don't speak these languages.
Care to translate.
'LAA IQRAHA FIDDIEN' means 'religion is not something to be forced'. The other one have the same meaning in Caraka script, (Old Javanese), me think.

Pangeran Datu, does the caraka script looks like this?
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Old 26th May 2007, 11:47 PM   #4
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'LAA IQRAHA FIDDIEN' means 'religion is not something to be forced'. The other one have the same meaning in Caraka script, (Old Javanese), me think.

Pangeran Datu, does the caraka script looks like this?
Hi Alam Shah and David,

You are correct, of course, about the Arabic script. The implication being that, one must feel 'freed' by religion rather than be enslaved/oppressed by it.
Good guess on the second one! It actually means: Thus it is, that human behaviour/character should follow the wisdom of the rice plant.
Finally, look at the attached sample of Caraka and judge for yourself.

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Old 26th May 2007, 08:04 PM   #5
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As for the word 'kalawija':
It comes from the word kala=time and wija=seed i.e. time for planting seed.
There is another word:'PALAwija', from phala=fruit. In some regions, one or the other is used, while in others, they are used interchangeably.
Palawija is the term used for plants grown on the earth embankments/partitions of paddy fields/fishponds.
At rice-seedling planting time, whatever other 'fruit'-bearing seeds available are planted both to secure the earthenworks and to maximise yield.
Both words are derived from an agrarian society predisposed to symbolism, usually in its simplest form i.e. relating to their everyday life/universe.
Agrarian and everyday life, universe. I agree Pangeran. If you look at all the ricikan (details) in kerises, all come from those terms. You look at the ganja, for instance. The name of the shape of ganja, come from animal's name: "sirah cecak" (cecak's or small reptil's head), "buntut urang" (shrimp's tail). The form of mostly Majapahit ganja is "sebit ron tal" litterally, it means that the ganja is "curving like the tal's leaf".

Greneng? Actually there are two Caraka characters of "dha" at the greneng. Sekar kacang, or kembang kacang, or some people say tlale gajah (elephant's snail?). The luks or curves' classification, also based on "animal's move". Luk with style "sarpa lumaku" (walking snake), or "sarpa nglangi" (swimming snake) et cetera...

Every details on keris blade, or keris sheath and ornaments, have their specific meanings. Even the style, has its specific meaning too. Style of hilt "taman ngabean" is strong looking: it's good for strong and tall person. Hilt of "taman banaran" which is loose-looking, is good for small or less-tall person, soft person... And so on.

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Old 26th May 2007, 09:21 PM   #6
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Hi Rd. U. Djogja,

The short answer to your question is: 'YES'.

Probably because as part of the family heirloom we have one with the inscription: 'LAA IQRAHA FIDDIEN' (in Arabic script) and another with the inscription:' na twah ram pes dina urang agamaning pare' (in Caraka script).
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Pangeran datu,

I also have a tombak where there is an inscription in its methuk. Perhaps, I will upload it. Is it better if I upload it by opening new thread "Inscription in wesi aji"? So, we can focus this thread on Kalawija.

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Old 27th May 2007, 12:15 AM   #7
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Pangeran datu,

I also have a tombak where there is an inscription in its methuk. Perhaps, I will upload it. Is it better if I upload it by opening new thread "Inscription in wesi aji"? So, we can focus this thread on Kalawija.

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Hello Rd. U. Djogja,

I have no problem with that. However, I would wait a bit first, to see what level of response is generated before opening a new thread. Besides, there is already a thread about keris+spirit.
IMVHO, paranormal aspects of an object should be classified in the same category. In my experience, most inscriptions on genuine articles (not tourist white elephants) are designed to evoke/invoke/maintain some paranormal energy/activity.
Anyway, if the situation becomes such that it requires a separate thread, I'm sure our kind and generous Moderators will gladly oblige by transferring everything to a new one.
For the time being, perhaps we can prevail upon Ganjawulung's kindness and get him to edit the title of his original post, changing it to: The Kalawija/Palawija.

Cheers.
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Old 27th May 2007, 12:59 AM   #8
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No; if you guys want to start a new thread please do so.
I'm not of the mind, nor do I have the time to transfer old posts to a new thread.
Pls. remember that this is volunteer work; not a job.
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Old 27th May 2007, 01:31 AM   #9
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No; if you guys want to start a new thread please do so.
I'm not of the mind, nor do I have the time to transfer old posts to a new thread.
Pls. remember that this is volunteer work; not a job.
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Old 27th May 2007, 03:44 AM   #10
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Thank you Rick, David, and everybody,
Still continue the "unordinary dhapur". This time not kalawija, but rarely seen such dhapur like this. If we see the ricikan (details), at least we can see that this keris consists of two dhapur. (1) Karno Tinanding (but usually, karno tinanding is a straight dhapur) and (2) Sabuk Inten (11 luks, with two sogokans -- I don't know the English word).

What will you call such dhapur? Sabuk Inten tinanding? Please give me idea...

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Old 28th May 2007, 06:20 AM   #11
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Dear All,
Here is another kalawija keris, with 19 luks. I don't know, it is maybe Bimakroda luk 19 (?) or something else. (I hope Mansur will tell me what it is). The sheath is kemuning wood with motives of "nganam kepang" (English?), iras (one piece of wood) Solonese style.

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