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25th May 2007, 08:53 AM
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Nice old piece, Alam
Here a photo of another makara (a rather new hit) |
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25th May 2007, 09:13 AM
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Hi all,
Nice collection of makara hilts. Thanks Shahrial for the lighter picture. I couldn't see any scales before. On the illustration from Indonesian Ornamental Design actually that is a rip off too from the older book with the same name by van der Hoop, printed 1949 in "Bandoeng" by the "Koninklijk Bataviaasch Genootschap van Kunsten en Wetenschappen". Another style of Makara hilt will be published in Karsten's coming new book. We were at an auction together and he picked up a much chubbier version than the ones in this thread. Michael |
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25th May 2007, 09:45 AM
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Makara's Derivation?
Are these also derivations of Makara's motive? These six hilts are typical Cirebonese, and also Tegal hilts (Northern Coast of Central Java). They are abstraction of elephant figure (stylized elephant figure?).
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25th May 2007, 11:15 AM
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 It seems that you've quite a lot of nice hilts. Are you a hilt collector,as well? 
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25th May 2007, 05:51 PM
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But I'm still beginner in collecting hilts. Hilts with motives, I have mostly Cirebonese (twenty or more), Madurese and mostly "nunggak semi" hilts (Solonese and Yogyakartanese) without motives. Kerises? Not too many. In my "mad period" about six years ago, I had been searching and searching kerises throughout Java island. From village to village, sometimes cross the river by foot just to get one keris in Central Java. Or sometimes, I traveled alone for days from Jakarta to East Java, just to gather one or two kerises... At that time, I had about 600 kerises. Oh, but now is "only" about 100 kerises and tombaks (spears) or so. Some were fake kerises, or bad kerises. I've sold some too, to buy better kerises.. |
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26th May 2007, 04:11 AM
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Are these handles from the same root? I don't know for sure, whether this other handle (Cirebonese sword handle) is derived from Makara figure. A kind of abstraction as most of Cirebonese hilts in the Islamic era..
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30th May 2007, 03:29 AM
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Abstraction of Jawa Demam?
Is this the abstraction of the Jawa Demam?
Do let me know, please... |
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30th May 2007, 04:28 PM
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Aso in my opinion the sword handle comes from Makara figure. Your other keris hit could be Durga ...but also some other veiled woman. In Lombok adn Bali (see Djelenga book) there are also other hilt like this but made in local style. Here below i put a jawa hit. IMO is another Durga in cirebon style. |
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25th May 2007, 10:03 AM
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Please could you tell some more news about the new Karsten's book? (When will be edit, subject, ...) Thanks Marco |
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25th May 2007, 11:31 AM
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Hopefully it will be available early this Fall. It will cover all Keris areas and is 400+ pages in colour with several keris from museums and other European collections. Last time I talked with Karsten I was told that it will be published as a CD because of the size etc. Michael |
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25th May 2007, 10:57 AM
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I'll be looking forward to Karsten's new book, as well. 
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