Flyssa - I finally got one!!

Flavio · 22nd May 2007, 03:42 PM

Hey Lew, do you want to adopt me? I am only 31 years old

Lew · 22nd May 2007, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio

Hey Lew, do you want to adopt me? I am only 31 years old

Flavio

I am 20yrs older than you so the idea is not too far fetched

but then I would have access to your collection also

Lew

Flavio · 22nd May 2007, 06:06 PM

It's OK, then we can start the iter for the adoption

katana · 23rd May 2007, 10:23 AM

Hi Emanuel,
congrats......looks to be a very nice short flyssa..at last

..and like you I got mine cheaply, it was very dirty, the pictures were poor and it was listed as 'possibly a military bayonet'...

David

Lew. if the adoptions are freely available, count me in......as long as you could accept 'the raised eye brows'....I'm only 8 years your Junior.

Emanuel · 4th July 2007, 03:58 PM

Well, here are some more pics, as it never hurts to have pics.
Kronckew, my flyssa is very much like yours, with near-identical floral decoration on the spine. Actually, this is also very much like that on Lew's example, but i think his lost some of the brass.
Now I wonder if these variations represent different artisan hands, or the same at different times. If we take it that these "high-quality" flyssa were the work of the Iflissen, then did the same design persist over the years, or were most pieces produced in a short time period?
A detailed study of all of these would be interesting...anyone care to send me their flyssa for analysis?

I got around to uploading "Sabres Kabyles" by Camille Lacoste-Desjardinds. I've ranted on before about this treatise and I highly recommend it if you can read French... http://rapidshare.com/files/40972393/sabresKabyles.pdf

Emanuel

Tim Simmons · 4th July 2007, 05:49 PM

A small one that seems to have slightly different decoration, 42cm out of scabbard. I think I read somewhere that these small one in particular are known as vipers and the scabbards carving reflects there nature. i might have it all wrong and mixed up. Sorry the pics are a bit limited, short of time.

kronckew · 4th July 2007, 06:31 PM

as my earlier posts in this thread did not show the blade decorations, just the spines, here are the blades:
(last photo shows curved variant which has much the same decoration and carvings.
- and shows the replacement bands i added on the flyssa scabbard where they were missing.

)

the slight variations in the decorations are almost like they came from the same shop and pattern book, but had different engravers with slightly different skills and emphasis. maybe they got bored making them all alike & added their own slight differences with artistic license.

4th July 2007, 03:58 PM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Well, here are some more pics, as it never hurts to have pics. Kronckew, my flyssa is very much like yours, with near-identical floral decoration on the spine. Actually, this is also very much like that on Lew's example, but i think his lost some of the brass. Now I wonder if these variations represent different artisan hands, or the same at different times. If we take it that these "high-quality" flyssa were the work of the Iflissen, then did the same design persist over the years, or were most pieces produced in a short time period? A detailed study of all of these would be interesting...anyone care to send me their flyssa for analysis? I got around to uploading "Sabres Kabyles" by Camille Lacoste-Desjardinds. I've ranted on before about this treatise and I highly recommend it if you can read French... http://rapidshare.com/files/40972393/sabresKabyles.pdf Emanuel Attached Images

22nd May 2007, 03:42 PM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hey Lew, do you want to adopt me? I am only 31 years old

22nd May 2007, 06:06 PM	#3
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	It's OK, then we can start the iter for the adoption

23rd May 2007, 10:23 AM	#4
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi Emanuel, congrats......looks to be a very nice short flyssa..at last ..and like you I got mine cheaply, it was very dirty, the pictures were poor and it was listed as 'possibly a military bayonet'... David Lew. if the adoptions are freely available, count me in......as long as you could accept 'the raised eye brows'....I'm only 8 years your Junior.

4th July 2007, 05:49 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	A small one that seems to have slightly different decoration, 42cm out of scabbard. I think I read somewhere that these small one in particular are known as vipers and the scabbards carving reflects there nature. i might have it all wrong and mixed up. Sorry the pics are a bit limited, short of time.

4th July 2007, 06:31 PM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	as my earlier posts in this thread did not show the blade decorations, just the spines, here are the blades: (last photo shows curved variant which has much the same decoration and carvings. - and shows the replacement bands i added on the flyssa scabbard where they were missing. ) the slight variations in the decorations are almost like they came from the same shop and pattern book, but had different engravers with slightly different skills and emphasis. maybe they got bored making them all alike & added their own slight differences with artistic license.