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Old 21st May 2007, 10:03 PM   #1
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I JUST FALL IN LOVE!! BEATIFUL SWORD, AND IN A VERY GOOD CONDITION!!
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Old 22nd May 2007, 12:23 PM   #2
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Beautifull!!! Congratulations
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Old 22nd May 2007, 01:07 PM   #3
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Very nice Opi!

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Old 22nd May 2007, 08:45 PM   #4
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Bill, congrats for getting this piece from Arjan's collection! I like the carvings and the old fittings...

Michael, why do you think this is an Opi? The hilt and scabbard style seems to me in good agreement with what Albert van Zonneveld classifies as sword of the Timor group, type a, doesn't it?

While the short blade seems to be of good quality, I assume these are mainly status (or ceremonial) swords?

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Old 22nd May 2007, 09:13 PM   #5
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Kai,

I have always called the type a Timor sword an Opi.
But now when you bring it up maybe I have always been wrong on this?

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Old 23rd May 2007, 08:16 PM   #6
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Hello Michael,

AvZ's Opi examples display a distinct hilt and scabbard style. Aside from Stone, he only references W. Foy (1899).

Are there any other primary sources which support a connection between the name and either sword type?

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Old 23rd May 2007, 08:31 PM   #7
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Hello Kai,

I haven't either found that much on Timor weapon names.
Usually the Timor books I have, or have seen, are more into the "tribal art" aspects than weapons.
Unfortunately I don't have the Leiden catalogues on Timor where I suspect the local names are clarified.

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