Old kind of Mandau scabbard from Kutei

Mytribalworld · 15th May 2007, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VVV

Here is a mandau I found last month.
It has a very old scabbard version from Kutei that I don't think has been published on this forum before.
The hilt is the old face version and the blade is undecorated which is also characteristic of this kind of mandau.

Michael

Nice piece Michael,also here is good visable that the carved triangle on the scabbard once served as a kind of clip but in the later versions of mandaus more and more became one piece with the scabbard and lost its function.

Arjan.

ariel · 16th May 2007, 12:20 AM

I see that this one also lost the "plug" at the end of the handle. What were they made of? How resilient they were? Is the absence of it a conceivable sign of the age?

asomotif · 16th May 2007, 09:35 AM

Hello Michael,

Not published before on this webiste ?
Check again

Arjan made a thread recently including one Kutei mandau from my collection.

Best regards,
Willem

asomotif · 16th May 2007, 09:39 AM

There it is :
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3967

Ps. very nice find Michael,

The knot (shell/mother of pearl) on the loop has 2 holes.
it looks like this is also something that you only find on the older mandaus.

VVV · 16th May 2007, 11:52 AM

So sorry Willem,

I only remembered that thread as discussing the hilts.

Ariel, the plug is made of resin (damar). Some have it and some don't.
I don't think it's an age indicator. Maybe an indicator of condition?

Michael

Dajak · 16th May 2007, 06:38 PM

Hi All there missing the damar on the end off the handle mostly did get lost and not replaced
There are some very old ones that has not been decorated
I personally think that the early one s had not much decoration
and that they started later with decoration

asomotif · 18th May 2007, 08:47 AM

Michael,

When would you say a mandau is from koetei ?
The rattanstrip on the scabbard. or the style of the handle or the combination ?

I have 4 scabbards with rattan strips now.

16th May 2007, 09:35 AM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Hello Michael, Not published before on this webiste ? Check again Arjan made a thread recently including one Kutei mandau from my collection. Best regards, Willem Attached Images

18th May 2007, 08:47 AM	#7
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Michael, When would you say a mandau is from koetei ? The rattanstrip on the scabbard. or the style of the handle or the combination ? I have 4 scabbards with rattan strips now. Attached Images

16th May 2007, 12:20 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I see that this one also lost the "plug" at the end of the handle. What were they made of? How resilient they were? Is the absence of it a conceivable sign of the age?

16th May 2007, 09:39 AM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	There it is : http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3967 Ps. very nice find Michael, The knot (shell/mother of pearl) on the loop has 2 holes. it looks like this is also something that you only find on the older mandaus.

16th May 2007, 11:52 AM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	So sorry Willem, I only remembered that thread as discussing the hilts. Ariel, the plug is made of resin (damar). Some have it and some don't. I don't think it's an age indicator. Maybe an indicator of condition? Michael

16th May 2007, 06:38 PM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi All there missing the damar on the end off the handle mostly did get lost and not replaced There are some very old ones that has not been decorated I personally think that the early one s had not much decoration and that they started later with decoration