Two Tajong?

ganjawulung · 15th May 2007, 05:13 AM

Dear David,

I like the discussion like this. Because, really I like to learn from other's opinion. I've read also different opinion between two keris experts GC Woolley and AH Hill in this matter, if I'm not mistaken. According to Woolley, The pattani keris is Keris Pekakak, or Kingfisher. (Event in David van Duuren's Krisses, a Critical Bibliography 2002, Van Duuren clearly mention in one picture of such hilt, "A wooden 'kingfisher' hilt or hulu pekakak from the Malay Peninsula).

In their book, "The Keris and other Malay Weapons" AH Hill and GC Woolley wrote about this. Classification of keris based on the hilt and sheath, Woolley classified (1) Bali, Lombok and Madura type (2) the Javanese type (3) The peninsula (Northern) type, (4) the Bugis type (5) The Sumatran type (6) The Pattani type (7) The Sundang or Sulu type.

Woolley wrote, that The Pattani type also called the Keris Pekaka or Pekakak "The Kingfisher". This is reference to the hilt, which may derived from the bird-headed Garuda (demon or demigod in the Javanese Wayang Kulit or Puppet Leather).

But H Hill in his article in the same book, said that: ... figure with a long nose erroneusly called kingfisher (pekakak). In other part, Woolley mentioned, that there is a form of hilt showing a demon head with the teeth and tusks and a long nose, though not a beak like the 'kingfisher' and this is -- according to Wooley -- may be an early type of the Keris Pattani and show the connection with the old Hindu religion and the Wayang Kulit plays..

So no certainty either. Anyway, in the glossary of Keris terms in that book, Woolley still mentioned that Pekakak: Kingfisher, and Keris pekakak is the Pattani keris. Also, according Woolley, Keris Patani is the 'kingfisher-hilt' type..

Ganjawulung

15th May 2007, 05:13 AM	#9
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	GC Woolley or AH Hill? Dear David, I like the discussion like this. Because, really I like to learn from other's opinion. I've read also different opinion between two keris experts GC Woolley and AH Hill in this matter, if I'm not mistaken. According to Woolley, The pattani keris is Keris Pekakak, or Kingfisher. (Event in David van Duuren's Krisses, a Critical Bibliography 2002, Van Duuren clearly mention in one picture of such hilt, "A wooden 'kingfisher' hilt or hulu pekakak from the Malay Peninsula). In their book, "The Keris and other Malay Weapons" AH Hill and GC Woolley wrote about this. Classification of keris based on the hilt and sheath, Woolley classified (1) Bali, Lombok and Madura type (2) the Javanese type (3) The peninsula (Northern) type, (4) the Bugis type (5) The Sumatran type (6) The Pattani type (7) The Sundang or Sulu type. Woolley wrote, that The Pattani type also called the Keris Pekaka or Pekakak "The Kingfisher". This is reference to the hilt, which may derived from the bird-headed Garuda (demon or demigod in the Javanese Wayang Kulit or Puppet Leather). But H Hill in his article in the same book, said that: ... figure with a long nose erroneusly called kingfisher (pekakak). In other part, Woolley mentioned, that there is a form of hilt showing a demon head with the teeth and tusks and a long nose, though not a beak like the 'kingfisher' and this is -- according to Wooley -- may be an early type of the Keris Pattani and show the connection with the old Hindu religion and the Wayang Kulit plays.. So no certainty either. Anyway, in the glossary of Keris terms in that book, Woolley still mentioned that Pekakak: Kingfisher, and Keris pekakak is the Pattani keris. Also, according Woolley, Keris Patani is the 'kingfisher-hilt' type.. Ganjawulung