keris and spirit

David · 14th May 2007, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Raden Usman Djogja

Then, it is free choice for him to think whether it is a sign or not regarding with the "power" of his new Keris.

Yep, sometimes it's all just a matter of how you look at the world.
Yet even those of us who adopt a magickal world view also realize that making things happen in our lives is often the fruit of much hard work. I remember once attending a workshop on sigil working. A sigil is a symbol, like a seal, that is created for a specific magickal purpose. One guy in the workshop asked if there was some special sigil one could use to help him get a job. The instuctor thought for a moment and then told the guy "Yes, it's called a resumé!"

A. G. Maisey · 14th May 2007, 05:32 AM

May I congratulate you, Raden, upon achieving your desire to own a keris by Empu Djeno.

You know, it would not surprise me if many more people who ordered keris prior to Empu Djeno's return to his Father's House recieved news that their orders had been finished prior to Empu Djeno's departure.It is even possible that all keris ordered from Empu Djeno were finished long ago, and the only reason for delay in delivery has been because of the time taken to dress these blades in a suitable fashion.

Regarding the fire at the Keraton Surakarta Hadiningrat in 1985.

For some time, prior to this fire , Sinuhun had not infrequently remarked to his close friends that he was disappointed that he had reached the evening of his life, but he still had not built a keraton of his own.

The length of time that a Javanese keraton is allowed to stand is traditionally recognised as 100 years.

Bearing in mind these two facts, one must question whether the power of the pusakas was to prevent the destruction of a keraton that had already outlived its allotted span, or whether the power was one of renewal to assist in creation of a new keraton.

Raden Usman Djogja · 14th May 2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

or whether the power was one of renewal to assist in creation of a new keraton.

Alan,

it is new info for me. very fruitful. thank you very much.
sometimes, we get the truth longafter we concluded it. and too many times truth and conclusion differ.

A. G. Maisey · 14th May 2007, 02:18 PM

Raden, I am not stating a truth, for I do not know what is the truth.

I am merely proposing an alternative way of looking at an event which did occur and that at the time of its occurrence was surrounded with mystery and rumour.

14th May 2007, 05:32 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	May I congratulate you, Raden, upon achieving your desire to own a keris by Empu Djeno. You know, it would not surprise me if many more people who ordered keris prior to Empu Djeno's return to his Father's House recieved news that their orders had been finished prior to Empu Djeno's departure.It is even possible that all keris ordered from Empu Djeno were finished long ago, and the only reason for delay in delivery has been because of the time taken to dress these blades in a suitable fashion. Regarding the fire at the Keraton Surakarta Hadiningrat in 1985. For some time, prior to this fire , Sinuhun had not infrequently remarked to his close friends that he was disappointed that he had reached the evening of his life, but he still had not built a keraton of his own. The length of time that a Javanese keraton is allowed to stand is traditionally recognised as 100 years. Bearing in mind these two facts, one must question whether the power of the pusakas was to prevent the destruction of a keraton that had already outlived its allotted span, or whether the power was one of renewal to assist in creation of a new keraton.

14th May 2007, 02:18 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Raden, I am not stating a truth, for I do not know what is the truth. I am merely proposing an alternative way of looking at an event which did occur and that at the time of its occurrence was surrounded with mystery and rumour.