Knobkerrie

The Double D · 3rd May 2007, 04:46 AM

The bicolored wire is often seen on knobkerrie's and spears in Zululand. All that I have seen carries one characteristic that yours doesn't. All I have seen is beaten, frayed and loose. I believe until some shows me different that the bicolored is older. How old, I don't know.

The old sailor who brought back could be absolutely right when he says it had something to do with the Zulus at Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift...There were Zulus at Rorkes Drift and Isandlwana in 1903.

Tim Simmons · 3rd May 2007, 07:22 AM

Very nice clean example. I am still waiting for a good wired one like this, at the right price. Could be from many people from SA, even Ngoni which makes a huge area.

Lew · 3rd May 2007, 04:10 PM

Bill that is a super nice knobkerrie probably early 20th or late 19th century. Here is a link to some similar pieces which Tim had posted on another thread.

http://www.michaelstevenson.com/afri...nobkerries.htm

Lew

Bill M · 3rd May 2007, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Bill that is a super nice knobkerrie probably early 20th or late 19th century. Here is a link to some similar pieces which Tim had posted on another thread.

http://www.michaelstevenson.com/afri...nobkerries.htm

Lew

Thank you several times Lew for your kind assistance!

The link shows some pieces that really look like mine. Seems to look most like this one:
http://www.michaelstevenson.com/afri...html/11-27.htm

North Nguni

The Double D · 3rd May 2007, 05:08 PM

Saying Nguni is probably the best way to describe everything in the region.

http://countrystudies.us/south-africa/46.htm

Kind of like saying it's Scot when you don't know if its Mcleod or Nicholson.

Tim Simmons · 3rd May 2007, 05:31 PM

You could fit a Lot of Scotlands in SA with Nguni up to the lakes.

Bill M · 16th August 2007, 03:02 PM

Here are some pictures of the original collector

the first was taken in 1905

The second in 1925 -- far right

the last in 1963. -- right

16th August 2007, 03:02 PM	#7
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Here are some pictures of the original collector the first was taken in 1905 The second in 1925 -- far right the last in 1963. -- right Attached Images

3rd May 2007, 04:46 AM	#1
The Double D Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the banks of Cut Bank Creek, Montana Posts: 189	The bicolored wire is often seen on knobkerrie's and spears in Zululand. All that I have seen carries one characteristic that yours doesn't. All I have seen is beaten, frayed and loose. I believe until some shows me different that the bicolored is older. How old, I don't know. The old sailor who brought back could be absolutely right when he says it had something to do with the Zulus at Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift...There were Zulus at Rorkes Drift and Isandlwana in 1903.

3rd May 2007, 07:22 AM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	Very nice clean example. I am still waiting for a good wired one like this, at the right price. Could be from many people from SA, even Ngoni which makes a huge area.

3rd May 2007, 04:10 PM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Bill that is a super nice knobkerrie probably early 20th or late 19th century. Here is a link to some similar pieces which Tim had posted on another thread. http://www.michaelstevenson.com/afri...nobkerries.htm Lew

3rd May 2007, 05:08 PM	#5
The Double D Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the banks of Cut Bank Creek, Montana Posts: 189	Saying Nguni is probably the best way to describe everything in the region. http://countrystudies.us/south-africa/46.htm Kind of like saying it's Scot when you don't know if its Mcleod or Nicholson.

3rd May 2007, 05:31 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	You could fit a Lot of Scotlands in SA with Nguni up to the lakes.