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			Hello everybody, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I'm a new member. My name is Patrick de Vries from Holland. I have an antique shop specialised in antiques from Indonesia. { commercial links edited by Rick} My quesion is about books: I have many books about keris and other Indonesian weapons, but most are written in bhs Indonesia. I know a bit bhs, but it is very hard to read and understand it. I know there is a translation of the Budaya Nasional. Does anybode know where I can get it (or borrow a copy?). Any other good suggestions for book? Best regards and thanks, Patrick  | 
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			Hi Patrick, welcome to the Warung .   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  I edited out your links because they seem to be of a commercial nature. We all would love to see your private collection; any pieces offered for sale must be posted in the Swap forum. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Again, Welcome. Rick  | 
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			G'day Patrick, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	There was a translation done of "Budaya Nasional". My understanding is that it was commissioned by Hardiono of Surabaya. Pak Hardiono was an important dealer of some years ago, and he has now passed away. Back in the 1990's I noted a small number of these translations available through a dealer in Solo. I have not seen a translation for sale for many years. In any case, it was a very, very bad translation, and in my opinion it was so difficult to understand that it could in itself cause misunderstandings. I do have a copy of it somewhere. If you care to email me privately we may be able to work something out.  | 
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			A new indonesian book on Yogya sarong
		 
		
		
		
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 What are its contents? Where can I get a copy?  
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 just info: as i know the book is not ready now, i hope ready in this year  
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			Marcokeris informed us sometime in April that Mrs Ghinringhelli had produced a second book on keris. Alam Shah (I think) gave us the address of the Publisher and I immediately ordered one copy that was supposed to be published in November only.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Well, good news, I receive my copy today ! First impressions : Great book, with good illustrations in A4 format. A few pages of explanations about who is a keris, what is a keris, what a keris can do, how is a keris forged and then starts the collection of Mr.Ghiringhelli with a photo and a page of explanations per weapon. It even shows a few keris for woman "keris wanita" as Mrs. Ghinringhelli calls them. At the end an interesting bibliography. I am very happy with this book that I have not yet read but glanced upon only. Hope that a few of you have received it or will receive it and will comment. Michel  | 
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 I put here a picture of the new book  | 
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