Some "pre-1898" Military Kurkis

Jim McDougall · 9th April 2007, 02:24 PM

Beautifully detailed and explained Spiral!!! Thank you so much!!!

I really appreciate your insight into these fascinating weapons and especially your photos that illustrate the varying 'cho's. I had often heard the explanation regarding symbolism of the sexual organ of Kali, however had not heard of the temple roof association. It would seem that in the subcontinent, especially on Hindu weapons, that architectural symbolism has often been employed, and this appears to carry forth that concept. It is thought as well that the tulwar hilt carrys certain association in the decorative structure that represent the stupa.
Thank you again, and its really good to hear from you!

Thanks again Derek, for showing these and for sharing your information and perspective. A few years ago talking with JP I recall him telling me about some hoard of Nepalese weapons being acquired by some concern here in the US, but did not recall that it was ATL cutlery. Sounds like a mouth-watering situation though from the volume of weapons he noted!

I agree , I hope Bill will chime in on this.

Andrew, thanks for the note and I'm glad to see Derek and Spiral here....I hope JP will come back too. I think its fantastic to see specialization on key weapon forms, and the comprehensive material shared here is outstanding.

Thanks very much Gentlemen!!!

All the best,
Jim

derek · 9th April 2007, 05:07 PM

Good effort, Spiral.

Jim,

Here was Beoram's repsonse to the inscriptions on the 2nd and 3rd kukris in my post:

"I'm pretty sure now that the nicknames are in fact company names - or abbreviations thereof.

These would seem to match: Shree Naya Gorakh Battalion and
Shree Naya Shree Nath Battalion respectively.

na. go. = naya gorakh;
shrii: naa: = shrii naath"

Both begin with the "Shree 3 Chandra" nod to the Prime Minister, as Spiral noted above. The rest is a small leap in translation. Basically, if you view these characters as abbreviations they can be matched to existing battalions.

Again, it would be great to see a bigger sampling of these. If no one else can do it, I will make the trip no later than November. I'll try for sooner, but I keep hearing about the cost of fuel going up.....

spiral · 9th April 2007, 08:51 PM

Thankyou chaps!

Its nice to see such complete ones Derek, If I lived 4 hours from Atlanta you couldnt keep me out of there!

Spiral

9th April 2007, 02:24 PM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,616	Beautifully detailed and explained Spiral!!! Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate your insight into these fascinating weapons and especially your photos that illustrate the varying 'cho's. I had often heard the explanation regarding symbolism of the sexual organ of Kali, however had not heard of the temple roof association. It would seem that in the subcontinent, especially on Hindu weapons, that architectural symbolism has often been employed, and this appears to carry forth that concept. It is thought as well that the tulwar hilt carrys certain association in the decorative structure that represent the stupa. Thank you again, and its really good to hear from you! Thanks again Derek, for showing these and for sharing your information and perspective. A few years ago talking with JP I recall him telling me about some hoard of Nepalese weapons being acquired by some concern here in the US, but did not recall that it was ATL cutlery. Sounds like a mouth-watering situation though from the volume of weapons he noted! I agree , I hope Bill will chime in on this. Andrew, thanks for the note and I'm glad to see Derek and Spiral here....I hope JP will come back too. I think its fantastic to see specialization on key weapon forms, and the comprehensive material shared here is outstanding. Thanks very much Gentlemen!!! All the best, Jim

9th April 2007, 05:07 PM	#2
derek Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215	Good effort, Spiral. Jim, Here was Beoram's repsonse to the inscriptions on the 2nd and 3rd kukris in my post: "I'm pretty sure now that the nicknames are in fact company names - or abbreviations thereof. These would seem to match: Shree Naya Gorakh Battalion and Shree Naya Shree Nath Battalion respectively. na. go. = naya gorakh; shrii: naa: = shrii naath" Both begin with the "Shree 3 Chandra" nod to the Prime Minister, as Spiral noted above. The rest is a small leap in translation. Basically, if you view these characters as abbreviations they can be matched to existing battalions. Again, it would be great to see a bigger sampling of these. If no one else can do it, I will make the trip no later than November. I'll try for sooner, but I keep hearing about the cost of fuel going up.....

9th April 2007, 08:51 PM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Thankyou chaps! Its nice to see such complete ones Derek, If I lived 4 hours from Atlanta you couldnt keep me out of there! Spiral