Spectacular Kilij!!!

HUSAR · 5th April 2007, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by spiral

If you actualy scrolled to bottom of page it is all set up for paypal payment.

It always helps to read the whole advert. He probably assumed anyone who couldnt do that, wasnt serious....

Spiral

I have e-mailed seller too... and asked about telephone number and address while I could mange local pick-up no response to any e-mails, take care for swords listed from Ukraine and Russia while all those items are much more expensive there than in other parts of Europe or USA...
best
Husar

Yannis · 6th April 2007, 11:35 PM

One funny thing in the second kilij: The most positive feedbacks of the seller come from people who are "no longer register user" in Ebay. I wonder why all these good people left

ALEX · 10th April 2007, 09:59 AM

Another marvel from Ukraine:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Shamshir-in-a-co...QQcmdZViewItem

If you look closely - the rants of Kirk-Narduban look almost like they've been painted on the blade, too perfect. If the buyer gets it - what a deal!!!

ariel · 10th April 2007, 12:37 PM

I was watching this one closely, together with 2 other spectaculat items that he was selling.
The story is strange: the seller came out of nowhere with 333 positive feedbacks, all from a total of 5 or 6 sellers ( he was always a buyer), all items were bought in large batches, 30-60 of them in one fell swoop.
Then he sold 3 decent European swods for modest sums and got positive feedbacks.
Then, he put 3 spectacular Oriental swords including a Tulwar (misspelled) that Fiegel would have drooled over. Three days. Then, the next batch ( the shamshir, gorgeous shield/helmet and 2 fantastic daggers). Three days.
"Do not ask me about the origin of these swords". Bank transfer only.
If I were a suspicious man ( as Don Corleone used to say), I 'd have said that by the time swords are supposed to arrive from the Ukraine and feedback left, the seller would get all the bank transfers for these and, perhaps, for yet another batch or two ( 3 day listings).
But I am a naive soul, believing in the innate goodness and honesty of all human beings. Congratulations to the winners!

spiral · 10th April 2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

The story is strange: the seller came out of nowhere with 333 positive feedbacks, all from a total of 5 or 6 sellers ( he was always a buyer), all items were bought in large batches, 30-60 of them in one fell swoop.

Actualy Ariel thats 337 members who left him 1,921 feedbacks, since 1998. that is an average nearer to 6 buys per seller.

But the strangest thing to my eye is the account had been dormant for 3 years, a suspicios & paranoid mind might wonder if it was a hacked account? But of course he may have just been busy!

Spiral

Yannis · 11th April 2007, 06:38 AM

I was looking last shamshir too. It is a perfect piece. I was suspicious so I send a question to the seller. I never got an answer. After that I could not bid not a euro on that. Ukraine is not the place to mess with legal debates. I wish the buyer good luck.

ariel · 16th April 2007, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannis

I was looking last shamshir too. It is a perfect piece. I was suspicious so I send a question to the seller. I never got an answer. After that I could not bid not a euro on that. Ukraine is not the place to mess with legal debates. I wish the buyer good luck.

You could have asked him one more time

This sword and the shield/helmet pair were sold again.
Either the original buyer backed off or the seller had yet more copies of his unique items

The saga continues...
I think we shall not see the buyer of both items on e-bay for a while: every bank account has its limits

Yannis · 10th May 2007, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

Another marvel from Ukraine:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Shamshir-in-a-co...QQcmdZViewItem

Ebay finally closed the account. Read the last feedback. It is sad that at least 2 good users lost their money.

I had a good deal in the past with one of them and he is really a good ebayer

ariel · 14th July 2007, 05:25 AM

Well, boys, 3 is a charm...

It is the third time this sword had been sold..
Each time the price is getting lower. If we wait long enough, the seller will pay to whoever gets this masterpiece off his hands.
Sold through yet another account that had been inactive for more than 5 years...
I am wondering: does the e-bay get its fees from the seller?

Rick · 14th July 2007, 06:12 PM

Yes.

ALEX · 15th July 2007, 03:40 PM

Just FYI:
Another "sold in the past' shamshir. I recently saw it in one of the shops... and it is not in Germany

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ottoman-Silver...QQcmdZViewItem

14th July 2007, 06:12 PM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Fees From Seller Yes.

6th April 2007, 11:35 PM	#2
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	One funny thing in the second kilij: The most positive feedbacks of the seller come from people who are "no longer register user" in Ebay. I wonder why all these good people left

10th April 2007, 09:59 AM	#3
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Another marvel from Ukraine: http://cgi.ebay.com/Shamshir-in-a-co...QQcmdZViewItem If you look closely - the rants of Kirk-Narduban look almost like they've been painted on the blade, too perfect. If the buyer gets it - what a deal!!!

10th April 2007, 12:37 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I was watching this one closely, together with 2 other spectaculat items that he was selling. The story is strange: the seller came out of nowhere with 333 positive feedbacks, all from a total of 5 or 6 sellers ( he was always a buyer), all items were bought in large batches, 30-60 of them in one fell swoop. Then he sold 3 decent European swods for modest sums and got positive feedbacks. Then, he put 3 spectacular Oriental swords including a Tulwar (misspelled) that Fiegel would have drooled over. Three days. Then, the next batch ( the shamshir, gorgeous shield/helmet and 2 fantastic daggers). Three days. "Do not ask me about the origin of these swords". Bank transfer only. If I were a suspicious man ( as Don Corleone used to say), I 'd have said that by the time swords are supposed to arrive from the Ukraine and feedback left, the seller would get all the bank transfers for these and, perhaps, for yet another batch or two ( 3 day listings). But I am a naive soul, believing in the innate goodness and honesty of all human beings. Congratulations to the winners!

11th April 2007, 06:38 AM	#6
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	I was looking last shamshir too. It is a perfect piece. I was suspicious so I send a question to the seller. I never got an answer. After that I could not bid not a euro on that. Ukraine is not the place to mess with legal debates. I wish the buyer good luck.

14th July 2007, 05:25 AM	#9
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Well, boys, 3 is a charm... It is the third time this sword had been sold.. Each time the price is getting lower. If we wait long enough, the seller will pay to whoever gets this masterpiece off his hands. Sold through yet another account that had been inactive for more than 5 years... I am wondering: does the e-bay get its fees from the seller?

15th July 2007, 03:40 PM	#11
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Just FYI: Another "sold in the past' shamshir. I recently saw it in one of the shops... and it is not in Germany http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ottoman-Silver...QQcmdZViewItem