Moro Kris

Battara · 30th March 2007, 01:27 AM

I think that the material is elephant molar - but not necessarily fossil though darker pictures may help. I can't see the spacer well enough to tell if it is carabao horn or not.

Congratulations in any case -

kino · 30th March 2007, 05:16 AM

Kai, I was gladly surprised that I has won the Kris for that much.

Spunger, The ferrule is brass. The black wood underneath the rattan is showing by ferrule.

Battara, I have been entertaining thoughts of the pommel being elephant molar.

kai · 30th March 2007, 09:03 AM

Hello Jose,

Certainly not fossil molar.

Is recent elephant molar more translucent than clam shell? I was wondering because the light source in the pic seems rather week and I'm more used to more opaque giant clam shell...

Regards,
Kai

Battara · 30th March 2007, 08:12 PM

I respectifully have to disagree with you Kai. I do think it is recent elephant molar, again, not fossil molar. It can be translucent. The shell does not look translucent to me, but highly reflective. Again, lighting.

kai · 30th March 2007, 08:32 PM

No need to disagree, Jose - I'm with you...

I have not seen something carved from recent elephant molar, so I was just asking wether it tends to be more translucent. Some clam shell pieces I've seen were not highly reflective (possibly an age issue) but still notably more opaque than shown by the torch light here. Thanks for the pointer!

Regards,
Kai

Battara · 31st March 2007, 07:32 PM

I must admit, Kai, I had to look hard but I see layers nearly identical to the fossil molar ivory I have on my barong, and some layers are white translucent. Strange stuff.

Here is a picture of what I mean.

Jose

Spunjer · 3rd April 2007, 03:03 AM

pictures of the 'loot'.

in comparison with an older kris:

once again kino, congrats on that nice snag...

31st March 2007, 07:32 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I must admit, Kai, I had to look hard but I see layers nearly identical to the fossil molar ivory I have on my barong, and some layers are white translucent. Strange stuff. Here is a picture of what I mean. Jose Attached Images

30th March 2007, 01:27 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I think that the material is elephant molar - but not necessarily fossil though darker pictures may help. I can't see the spacer well enough to tell if it is carabao horn or not. Congratulations in any case -

30th March 2007, 05:16 AM	#2
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	Kai, I was gladly surprised that I has won the Kris for that much. Spunger, The ferrule is brass. The black wood underneath the rattan is showing by ferrule. Battara, I have been entertaining thoughts of the pommel being elephant molar.

30th March 2007, 09:03 AM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Jose, Certainly not fossil molar. Is recent elephant molar more translucent than clam shell? I was wondering because the light source in the pic seems rather week and I'm more used to more opaque giant clam shell... Regards, Kai

30th March 2007, 08:12 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I respectifully have to disagree with you Kai. I do think it is recent elephant molar, again, not fossil molar. It can be translucent. The shell does not look translucent to me, but highly reflective. Again, lighting.

30th March 2007, 08:32 PM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	No need to disagree, Jose - I'm with you... I have not seen something carved from recent elephant molar, so I was just asking wether it tends to be more translucent. Some clam shell pieces I've seen were not highly reflective (possibly an age issue) but still notably more opaque than shown by the torch light here. Thanks for the pointer! Regards, Kai

3rd April 2007, 03:03 AM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	pictures of the 'loot'. in comparison with an older kris: once again kino, congrats on that nice snag...