...Back to the Sanduko

Ian · 23rd February 2005, 09:16 PM

Welcome back Spunjer ... glad you got back in one piece.

The sanduko described here is similar to the picture shown in Levine. The exaggerated upturned toe of the sanduko's scabbard seems a characterisitc of this weapon.

Spunjer · 23rd February 2005, 09:27 PM

i would like to specially thank you ian, and also zamboanga, for a very informative and detailed advice that you two has given me. it helped me a lot in acquiring my pieces. maraming pung salamat...

Ian · 23rd February 2005, 09:56 PM

kong kaibigan po.

LabanTayo · 23rd February 2005, 10:14 PM

spunjer,
holy crap. those are beautiful. i'm glad you got to see them in person. you'll have to pass on the address to us.
more info for the study. more questions to ask, and more headaches putting it all together.
give me a call this week if you can. i wanna hear about LSA and Panay.
glad your back in one piece, pare.

Federico · 24th February 2005, 04:09 AM

Awesome pics. So does this mean the long nose and turned scabbard tip mark these pieces as Mondo vs other demon hilted pieces from Panay? What other groups in Panay then make this demon hilt style? Wow... Interesting the museum supports the wave theory of PI settlement vs the more popular in Manila land bridge theory. Never liked the land bridge theory myself. Very cool stuff.

Conogre · 24th February 2005, 06:27 AM

Feeling inadequate..."Wow!!!"
Simply beautiful, and thank you so very much for the information.
One question....I can't make it out very well in the photographs....are the Mondo spears bare butted (keep it down, guys **grin**) all to often a great amount of detail is invested in the heads and mountings with the other end entirely neglected.
"@%#^$%& but those are sweet"
Mike

Spunjer · 24th February 2005, 12:23 PM

federico,
actually, that's a very interesting question. prior to going back to the islands, i brought pictures of sandata (visayan and moro) i was planning to acquire, hoping it would be easier to describe that way. pictures included close up pics of the hilts. the odd thing is, no one in iloilo province recognized the diety hilts, and i even travelled three hours inland, rural areas as well. if it wasn't for the last day museum visit, i would've given up hope on these weapons. i asked the museum curator about these specific type of sundang and she said that these are indeginous weapons to these tribe. panay island include the capiz and antique province as well, maybe it's more common in those areas. there are couple of antique stores, and none recognized those sundangs.

conogre,
the spears have metal spikes on them. and yes, they are @%#^$%& sweet! i half jokingly asked the curator if they were willing to sell me some of their pieces, lol. i was actually allowed to touched it, but wasn't allowed to pull it out...

23rd February 2005, 09:56 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,396	Walang anuman ... kong kaibigan po.

23rd February 2005, 09:16 PM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,396	Welcome back Spunjer ... glad you got back in one piece. The sanduko described here is similar to the picture shown in Levine. The exaggerated upturned toe of the sanduko's scabbard seems a characterisitc of this weapon.

23rd February 2005, 09:27 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	i would like to specially thank you ian, and also zamboanga, for a very informative and detailed advice that you two has given me. it helped me a lot in acquiring my pieces. maraming pung salamat...

23rd February 2005, 10:14 PM	#4
LabanTayo Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 177	spunjer, holy crap. those are beautiful. i'm glad you got to see them in person. you'll have to pass on the address to us. more info for the study. more questions to ask, and more headaches putting it all together. give me a call this week if you can. i wanna hear about LSA and Panay. glad your back in one piece, pare.

24th February 2005, 04:09 AM	#5
Federico Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 312	Awesome pics. So does this mean the long nose and turned scabbard tip mark these pieces as Mondo vs other demon hilted pieces from Panay? What other groups in Panay then make this demon hilt style? Wow... Interesting the museum supports the wave theory of PI settlement vs the more popular in Manila land bridge theory. Never liked the land bridge theory myself. Very cool stuff.

24th February 2005, 06:27 AM	#6
Conogre Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 371	Feeling inadequate..."Wow!!!" Simply beautiful, and thank you so very much for the information. One question....I can't make it out very well in the photographs....are the Mondo spears bare butted (keep it down, guys grin) all to often a great amount of detail is invested in the heads and mountings with the other end entirely neglected. "@%#^$%& but those are sweet" Mike

24th February 2005, 12:23 PM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	federico, actually, that's a very interesting question. prior to going back to the islands, i brought pictures of sandata (visayan and moro) i was planning to acquire, hoping it would be easier to describe that way. pictures included close up pics of the hilts. the odd thing is, no one in iloilo province recognized the diety hilts, and i even travelled three hours inland, rural areas as well. if it wasn't for the last day museum visit, i would've given up hope on these weapons. i asked the museum curator about these specific type of sundang and she said that these are indeginous weapons to these tribe. panay island include the capiz and antique province as well, maybe it's more common in those areas. there are couple of antique stores, and none recognized those sundangs. conogre, the spears have metal spikes on them. and yes, they are @%#^$%& sweet! i half jokingly asked the curator if they were willing to sell me some of their pieces, lol. i was actually allowed to touched it, but wasn't allowed to pull it out...