Kris Cundrik or kris patrem ?

Michel · 13th March 2007, 07:20 PM

I made an error in naming the first weapon a Badig. It is a Tumbuk Lada or peper crusher, at least in Malaysia. I think is a beauty. The shape, the blade, the sampir, evry part is perfectly made without overdoing them.
the next two are Kerambit or Lawi Ayam
Origin unknown but bought in Peninsular Malaysia
Thats all for tonight !
Michel
I have to replace the photo of the kerambit , I will do it later. have to go
Well, I cannot change this picture, I will have to send a new message.

Michel · 13th March 2007, 09:52 PM

Ok the order of the photos is not perfect but I have not found how to change them.The first is a sewa made for a friend and I cannot find any view of the blade. I remember that I was rather happy with it. the equivalent of the mendak was in brass and was quite a chalenge.
The second photo is the kerambit mentioned earlier. I like it.
The third is the lawi ayam with a bad photo of the previous post.
Michel

Alam Shah · 14th March 2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Michel

I made an error in naming the first weapon a Badik. It is a Tumbuk Lada or pepper crusher, at least in Malaysia. I think is a beauty. The shape, the blade, the sampir, every part is perfectly made without overdoing them..

Correct me if I'm wrong, the blade and sheath looks like a typical Sumatran Sewar (siwah, siwar..etc), but the hilt is unusual. Looks more like a sukul jering hilt form of the Pakpak Batak, Sumatra.

[Examples of sewar], (courtesy of VVV).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michel

the next two are Kerambit or Lawi Ayam
Origin unknown but bought in Peninsular Malaysia
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The 2nd item is a beladau (your 3rd and 4th pictures). Found in Sumatra and the Riau Archipelago (includes Peninsular Malaysia).

The 3rd item is as described. One of my favorite weapon. Currently, I only have a 'dummy' to practice with. One day, I wish to have the real stuff.

Michel · 17th March 2007, 09:41 PM

Sorry Alam Shah to be so late to thank for all your remarks but I have been very busy and away so that I did not have the time to answer.
I suggest we close this thread, that started with a kris patrem definition !
I will be coming back with other questions.
Thanks to all who were kind enough to give their points of view.
Michel

13th March 2007, 07:20 PM	#1
Michel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 139	I made an error in naming the first weapon a Badig. It is a Tumbuk Lada or peper crusher, at least in Malaysia. I think is a beauty. The shape, the blade, the sampir, evry part is perfectly made without overdoing them. the next two are Kerambit or Lawi Ayam Origin unknown but bought in Peninsular Malaysia Thats all for tonight ! Michel I have to replace the photo of the kerambit , I will do it later. have to go Well, I cannot change this picture, I will have to send a new message. Attached Images Last edited by Michel; 13th March 2007 at 09:01 PM.

13th March 2007, 09:52 PM	#2
Michel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 139	Ok the order of the photos is not perfect but I have not found how to change them.The first is a sewa made for a friend and I cannot find any view of the blade. I remember that I was rather happy with it. the equivalent of the mendak was in brass and was quite a chalenge. The second photo is the kerambit mentioned earlier. I like it. The third is the lawi ayam with a bad photo of the previous post. Michel Attached Images

17th March 2007, 09:41 PM	#4
Michel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 139	Sorry Alam Shah to be so late to thank for all your remarks but I have been very busy and away so that I did not have the time to answer. I suggest we close this thread, that started with a kris patrem definition ! I will be coming back with other questions. Thanks to all who were kind enough to give their points of view. Michel