Visayan Kris

Battara · 10th March 2007, 05:55 PM

I almost bid on that piece.

This is unusual since most of the northern pieces with wavy blades are Illocos Norte in origin. I have only seen these from Illocanos. Thus I question the Negras origin.

On the Katipunan question, the sun with a face is a definite Katipunan emblem and was in fact incorporated later into the Malolos flag when the government as set up around latge 1899. It is a form of Malay sun and the rays in this case represent the 8 original provinces that revolted this last time against the Spanish. Later some of the Visayas revolted, like Bohol island, Negros, etc.

The star in the middle of the hilt in this case -

Bill - yours is the best example I have ever seen (grumble,grumble,envy,envy

). I would add that it may have belonged to a general.

Oh yes, here is that post:
http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002102.html

VVV · 10th March 2007, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I almost bid on that piece.

This is unusual since most of the northern pieces with wavy blades are Illocos Norte in origin. I have only seen these from Illocanos. Thus I question the Negras origin.

(snip)

The star in the middle of the hilt in this case -

Hi Jose,

I don't have your experience with Luzon Kris.
Those I have seen have more the "usual" sword handle and slimmer blades.
Do you have examples of Illocano Kris that resembles mine?

I am aware of the Filipino flag symbolism but on the star please develop (I don't get it). Do you mean that the star is a sun with 6 rays???

Michael

10th March 2007, 05:55 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I almost bid on that piece. This is unusual since most of the northern pieces with wavy blades are Illocos Norte in origin. I have only seen these from Illocanos. Thus I question the Negras origin. On the Katipunan question, the sun with a face is a definite Katipunan emblem and was in fact incorporated later into the Malolos flag when the government as set up around latge 1899. It is a form of Malay sun and the rays in this case represent the 8 original provinces that revolted this last time against the Spanish. Later some of the Visayas revolted, like Bohol island, Negros, etc. The star in the middle of the hilt in this case - Bill - yours is the best example I have ever seen (grumble,grumble,envy,envy ). I would add that it may have belonged to a general. Oh yes, here is that post: http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002102.html Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 13th March 2007 at 02:24 AM.