Rare Dayak Daggers - Sadop and Dohong

Albert · 18th February 2007, 04:27 PM

Hello Michael,

Interesting photo!
From which publication is it?

Albert

Dajak · 18th February 2007, 08:25 PM

Hi Michael I think you are right when you say that dohuns are made from spearheads .

They where only used at funurals as ceremonium knife s
never as weapons and we see a lot off spearheads in the Indonesian archipalo mounted as knife s .

Ben

VVV · 18th February 2007, 08:59 PM

Albert,

It's just one of the pictures I found on the Internet. I saved it because it's the only picture I have seen with that kind of early 19th C spearhead otherwise only seen on old drawings.
Please join the discussion and let us know your view on the Dohong?

Ben,

Please note that I don't think all(!) Dohong were made from spearheads.
I suspect that there are several variations where some are remounted spearheads. I don't think that f.i. the larger and more swordlike version, that usually has big ivory handles, originally were spearheads.

Michael

Dajak · 19th February 2007, 04:19 AM

Hi Michael I am talking about the one in the picture this one is also pictured in Hornbill and dragon from Bernard sellato .
and the dohun you mean with the Ivory handle could be from an spearhead
I see a few but never so big like an bayu or mandau .
That could be why they use them for ceromonies and not for fighting because never intended to be an sword .
And you now how big and very old spearhead could be I never see an dohun
so big as that spearhead from the one in Kopenhagen.

Ben

VVV · 19th February 2007, 11:13 AM

Hi Ben,

I have to handle more Dohong first to be sure of this.
Like you have done because most of them are found in Dutch museums.

I have just added two additional, quite rare, Dayak knives to my collection site. It's the Piso Tongkeng of West Kalimantan and the Iban Lungat.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

Michael

Dajak · 19th February 2007, 07:30 PM

Hi Michael nice to see those rare knife s

here an picture off an big pisau rau

Ben

VVV · 19th February 2007, 07:58 PM

Interesting variation Ben!

I have to find a large one like that myself

Michael

19th February 2007, 11:13 AM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi Ben, I have to handle more Dohong first to be sure of this. Like you have done because most of them are found in Dutch museums. I have just added two additional, quite rare, Dayak knives to my collection site. It's the Piso Tongkeng of West Kalimantan and the Iban Lungat. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php Michael Attached Images

19th February 2007, 07:30 PM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Michael nice to see those rare knife s here an picture off an big pisau rau Ben Attached Images

18th February 2007, 04:27 PM	#1
Albert Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 202	Hello Michael, Interesting photo! From which publication is it? Albert

18th February 2007, 08:25 PM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Michael I think you are right when you say that dohuns are made from spearheads . They where only used at funurals as ceremonium knife s never as weapons and we see a lot off spearheads in the Indonesian archipalo mounted as knife s . Ben

18th February 2007, 08:59 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Albert, It's just one of the pictures I found on the Internet. I saved it because it's the only picture I have seen with that kind of early 19th C spearhead otherwise only seen on old drawings. Please join the discussion and let us know your view on the Dohong? Ben, Please note that I don't think all(!) Dohong were made from spearheads. I suspect that there are several variations where some are remounted spearheads. I don't think that f.i. the larger and more swordlike version, that usually has big ivory handles, originally were spearheads. Michael

19th February 2007, 04:19 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Michael I am talking about the one in the picture this one is also pictured in Hornbill and dragon from Bernard sellato . and the dohun you mean with the Ivory handle could be from an spearhead I see a few but never so big like an bayu or mandau . That could be why they use them for ceromonies and not for fighting because never intended to be an sword . And you now how big and very old spearhead could be I never see an dohun so big as that spearhead from the one in Kopenhagen. Ben

19th February 2007, 07:58 PM	#7
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Interesting variation Ben! I have to find a large one like that myself Michael