Tulwar with wootz blade!!

Flavio · 25th January 2007, 04:07 PM

Thank you both, Rick and Jens

Jens, yes is black lacquer.

I have found this on the mr. Yarom's site:

"Scarf welding was done by welding two ingots of steel in or around the upper third part of the blade, in order to provide the blade with both strength and flexibility. It was a common technique since many centuries and found on both Indian and European quality swords. Here the welding point is clearly seen in the close ups as a darker semicircle."

I think that this could be the case also on my blade.

Rick · 25th January 2007, 05:20 PM

Hi Jens,
No, I would never ever take a file to an old wootz blade .

I do wonder if this blade was once sharpened on a grindstone in its past .

Rick

Jens Nordlunde · 25th January 2007, 09:51 PM

Hi Flavio,
Show me where on the blade you think there is 'sarf welding'.
I think you have gotten a very nice sword, and you have every reason to be proud of it, but tell me, are there any traces of silver or gold around the floral decorations?

Flavio · 26th January 2007, 04:46 PM

Hi Jens, i'm proud just because it's my first wootz blade

i don't think absolutely that it's an extraordinary piece (infact the handle is in quite poor conditions as the scabbard) and no the handle doesn't shows neither silver nor gold decorations

. On the pictures you may see the semi-circular sign that i think could be the sign of 'sarf welding': this sign is present in both faces of blade even if at a difference distance ( 2-3 cm) from the handle (and on a face the concavity is toward the point and on the other face is toward the handle).
Sorry if i'm boasting myself too much with this sword, but it wasn't my intention, just i like to know what do you think because your knowledge is too much great than mine

Thank you

Jens Nordlunde · 26th January 2007, 09:37 PM

Hi Flavio,

The way I see it is, that the first scarf welding, is right, but the second is a repair, please let someone with more knowledge than I have, tell us what it is.

You see, it is seldom to see an Indian hilt with lacquer, that is why I asked.

I am glad on your behalf

Jens

S.Al-Anizi · 26th January 2007, 10:23 PM

Very nice sword you've got their Flavio, old, used, battle tested, and beautiful. Ive always wanted a sword which saw alot of use, and was of excellent quality, like this one.

Congratulations

Flavio · 27th January 2007, 12:02 PM

Thank you Jens and S.Al-Anizi

25th January 2007, 04:07 PM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you both, Rick and Jens Jens, yes is black lacquer. I have found this on the mr. Yarom's site: "Scarf welding was done by welding two ingots of steel in or around the upper third part of the blade, in order to provide the blade with both strength and flexibility. It was a common technique since many centuries and found on both Indian and European quality swords. Here the welding point is clearly seen in the close ups as a darker semicircle." I think that this could be the case also on my blade. Last edited by Flavio; 25th January 2007 at 05:13 PM.

26th January 2007, 04:46 PM	#4
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi Jens, i'm proud just because it's my first wootz blade i don't think absolutely that it's an extraordinary piece (infact the handle is in quite poor conditions as the scabbard) and no the handle doesn't shows neither silver nor gold decorations . On the pictures you may see the semi-circular sign that i think could be the sign of 'sarf welding': this sign is present in both faces of blade even if at a difference distance ( 2-3 cm) from the handle (and on a face the concavity is toward the point and on the other face is toward the handle). Sorry if i'm boasting myself too much with this sword, but it wasn't my intention, just i like to know what do you think because your knowledge is too much great than mine Thank you Attached Images

25th January 2007, 05:20 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Hi Jens, No, I would never ever take a file to an old wootz blade . I do wonder if this blade was once sharpened on a grindstone in its past . Rick

25th January 2007, 09:51 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Flavio, Show me where on the blade you think there is 'sarf welding'. I think you have gotten a very nice sword, and you have every reason to be proud of it, but tell me, are there any traces of silver or gold around the floral decorations?

26th January 2007, 09:37 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Flavio, The way I see it is, that the first scarf welding, is right, but the second is a repair, please let someone with more knowledge than I have, tell us what it is. You see, it is seldom to see an Indian hilt with lacquer, that is why I asked. I am glad on your behalf Jens

26th January 2007, 10:23 PM	#6
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	Very nice sword you've got their Flavio, old, used, battle tested, and beautiful. Ive always wanted a sword which saw alot of use, and was of excellent quality, like this one. Congratulations

27th January 2007, 12:02 PM	#7
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you Jens and S.Al-Anizi