Help with talismanic inscriptions?

Pangeran Datu · 23rd January 2007, 09:14 AM

Hi,

Consider:

- krises are mainly attributed to the 'Bangsa Moro', inhabiting the Southern Philippines and mainly Muslim.
- up until and during the Spanish conquest the main script used by the peoples of the Southern Philippines was Jawi/Kawi/Arabic, which is not pictographic .
- the only other major script is Eskaya, which is also not pictographic.

IMVHO, anything produced after the Spanish conquest is very unlikely to have scrtpt other than those mentioned and of course, Latin. Thus, the inlay is most probably mere decoration.

Having said that, I must admit that I do not recognise the symbols, if that's what they are.

Cheers.

VVV · 23rd January 2007, 10:49 AM

Pangeran Datu,

Thanks for your input on the possible scripts, maybe some more possible than others?
When looking at talismanic inscriptions and symbols I think we also have to consider the locally practised magic, in this case within "Folk Islam", where symbols from earlier religions, like Hinduism, has survived together with later symbols from Islam.
As well as local symbols that is difficult to trace to any religion.

That's one of the reasons why it's so interesting to study talismans on weapons where a lot of older beliefs quite often appears mixed together with the symbols of the present religion.

Michael

23rd January 2007, 09:14 AM	#1
Pangeran Datu Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 79	Hi, Consider: - krises are mainly attributed to the 'Bangsa Moro', inhabiting the Southern Philippines and mainly Muslim. - up until and during the Spanish conquest the main script used by the peoples of the Southern Philippines was Jawi/Kawi/Arabic, which is not pictographic . - the only other major script is Eskaya, which is also not pictographic. IMVHO, anything produced after the Spanish conquest is very unlikely to have scrtpt other than those mentioned and of course, Latin. Thus, the inlay is most probably mere decoration. Having said that, I must admit that I do not recognise the symbols, if that's what they are. Cheers.

23rd January 2007, 10:49 AM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Pangeran Datu, Thanks for your input on the possible scripts, maybe some more possible than others? When looking at talismanic inscriptions and symbols I think we also have to consider the locally practised magic, in this case within "Folk Islam", where symbols from earlier religions, like Hinduism, has survived together with later symbols from Islam. As well as local symbols that is difficult to trace to any religion. That's one of the reasons why it's so interesting to study talismans on weapons where a lot of older beliefs quite often appears mixed together with the symbols of the present religion. Michael