Best Ethnographic Sites?

Rick · 16th January 2007, 12:53 AM

Peabody Essex Museum in Salem Mass.

Higgins Armory Worcester Mass. (I have yet to visit)

The Hermitage St. Petersburg RU.

Kremlin Museum Moscow RU.

RhysMichael · 16th January 2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Peabody Essex Museum in Salem Mass.

Higgins Armory Worcester Mass. (I have yet to visit)

The Hermitage St. Petersburg RU.

Kremlin Museum Moscow RU.

I'll be up in MA near the RI border and hope to put in enough time to make it over to the Higgins it will a bit of a drive but I am sure it will be worth it.

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Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

It would also be really great if we could know a bit more about where each member lives and what he or she might recommend seeing that might even be in their home city.

I missed this part but there is Agecroft Hall here. A tudor home taken apart and brought over from England and reassembled that is a nice place to stop. It has a great deal of period art and furniture. Next door to that is the Virginia house a 12th century home that was the Priory of the Augustinian Order of the Holy Sepulcher of Jerusalem in Warwick and also was taken apart and brought over here.

Emanuel · 16th January 2007, 01:27 AM

If you get up to Canada, I can suggest the Royal Ontario Museum and Casa Loma in Toronto. The ROM has an extensive asian collection with emphasis on China and Japan, a sizable native Indian section, and also a fairly large weapons and war exhibit. I'd suggest you visit it after June 2007 when the new additions will be complete. Casa Loma, a small castle - the fancy of Sir Henry Pellat, Commander of the Queen's Own Rifles regiment - also has a weapons room if I recall correctly. You can also visit Fort York, the remains of an old garrison.
In Quebec City I recommend the Citadel and there are various other musea in the old city.

In Romania I've visited the National Military Museum in Bucharest, which has a very nice and large collection basically covering the entire military history of the Romanian people. The Peles Palace in Sinaia is a wonder to see, with a phenomenal hunting/arms hall full of weapons from around the world and all times

. Then again, if you get to that part of the world, there's LOTS to see in Romania and the neighbouring countries.

Emanuel

Andrew · 16th January 2007, 03:56 AM

The Topkapi is someplace I'd like to visit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topkapi_Palace

VANDOO · 16th January 2007, 04:04 AM

IN MY AREA THERE ARE QUITE A FEW MUSEUMS DEALING WITH THE OLD WEST. THERE ARE SOME GOOD COLLECTIONS OF NATIVE AMERICAN ARTEFACTS MIXED IN WITH ART AND WESTERN ITEMS. IN TOWN THERE IS PHILBROOK (ART AND INDIAN POTTERY WITH A FEW WEAPONS), GILCREASE (MOSTLY ART BUT SOME ETHINOGRAPHIC ITEMS AND A LOT OF NATIVE AMERICAN ITEMS FROM SPIRO MOUNDS) ,THE ORIENTAL ARTS MUSEUM (MOSTLY MODERN CHINESE ART WITH A FEW GOOD OLD ITEMS)

IN CLAREMORE 25 MILES AWAY THERE IS THE DAVIS GUN MUSEUM (BILLED AS THE LARGEST PRIVATE COLLECTION OF GUNS IN THE WORLD) IT ALSO HAS SOME EDGED WEAPONS , NATIVE AMERICAN ITEMS AS WELL AS OTHER INTERESTING ITEMS. THE WILL RODGERS MUSEUM (WESTERN ITEMS, NATIVE AMERICAN AND WILL RODGERS ITEMS)

NORTH OF TULSA IS THE WOLAROCK MUSEUM (MY FAVORITE IT HAS GUNS, EDGED WEAPONS,NATIVE AMERICAN AND OTHER NEAT ITEMS) I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE OLD HUNTING LODGE WHERE THE EARLY OIL MEN AND CELEBRITYS USED TO HANG OUT AND GAMBLE. THE HISTORY OF THE PHILLIPS RANCH IS VERY INTERESTING BY ITS SELF.

THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER SMALL MUSEUMS AROUND THE STATE FROM A BARBED WIRE MUSEUM TO A LININ MUSEUM. THERE IS A SMALL MUSEUM IN OKLAHOMA CITY THAT HAS SOME INCERDIBLE ITEMS FROM WW2 IN IT. THE MUSEUM IS ABOUT THE UNIT THAT TOOK HITLERS EAGLES NEST AND BROUGHT BACK LOTS OF SOUVINEERS FROM THERE.

ITS DIFFICULT TO SAY WHICH MUSEUMS IN OTHER COUNTRYS ARE BEST AS THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD ONES. THE BRITISH MUSEUM IN LONDON IS GREAT, WARRWICK CASTLE UP NEAR STRATFORD IS VERY GOOD THE GREAT HALL IS NOT TO BE MISSED, LOTS OF WEAPONS THRU OUT AS WELL AS A GHOST AND A VERY CREEPY DUNGEON. THE KROLLER MULLER MUSEUM (NETHERLANDS OR GERMANY

) IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GOOD ETHINOGRAPHIC COLLECTION BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SEE IT BUT DID SEE THE BEST VAN GOUGH PAINTINGS I HAVE SEEN THERE.
THERE IS A ETHINOGRAPHIC MUSEUM IN PARIS THAT HAS SOME VERY GOOD EXAMPLES OF AFRICAN AND OCEANIC ART AND WEAPONS. THE NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUM IN PARIS IS THE OLD FASHONED KIND I LIKE BEST AND HAS SOME GREAT SPECIMINS. THE OTHER ARMS MUSEUM I MENTIONED IN PARIS IS ALSO VERY GOOD BUT DEALS WITH MILITARY AND COURT ITEMS NOT ETHINOGRAPHIC. THERE ARE MANY MORE BUT I WILL END HERE FOR NOW.

dennee · 16th January 2007, 02:30 PM

Pitt-Rivers Museum, Oxford. Examples from many cultures, but probably the best Naga collection in the world.

Mark · 16th January 2007, 04:16 PM

The Smithsonian, at least the National Museum of Natural History, is surprisingly deficient in ethnographic weaponry. On display there are only perhaps two cases of weapons (most being mixed-use tools/weapons). They do have more in their stacks, but from what I saw of their Southeast Asian collection a couple years back, it is very patchy.

I have not see the collections of the Freer or Shackler galleries, but if what is on display is any indication, they are thin in the weapons area as well. The Freer has one middle eastern dagger on display (I forget where it is from exactly), and the Shackler only has a handful of ceremonial stone axe heads on display.

There is one magnificent Thai sword on display at the Museum of American history, in an out-of-the-way case containing various items given to Presidents by foreign heads of state. The Thai sword has a blade resembling that of a katana, but of damascus. Beautifully mounted.

sabertasche · 16th January 2007, 04:31 PM

Calgary Alberta, Canada has the Glenbow Museum. Half of the 4th foor is dedicated to arms and armour from many cultures. The museum is particularily strong in Japanese arms and armour but very little of it is actually on display. Still, the sections on swords and clubs from all cultures is great.

For those who like military stuff there is also the Musuem of the Regiments, HMCS Tecumseh Calgary Naval Museum and the Calgary Air Museum, - all located in Calgary. The M ofthe Regiments and the Naval museum are exceptional.

Cheers,

Greg

Bill M · 17th January 2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dennee

Pitt-Rivers Museum, Oxford. Examples from many cultures, but probably the best Naga collection in the world.

http://www.prm.ox.ac.uk/collections.html

This looks really good. Having some problems accessing links, but looks like they have some incredible items. I also like their idea of display. MIght be something to use for our collections.

Type of display

In most ethnographic and archaeological museums the displays are arranged according to geographical or cultural areas. In the Pitt Rivers Museum they are arranged 'typologically' (according to type): musical instruments, weapons, masks, textiles, jewellery, and tools are all displayed in groups to show how the same problems have been solved at different times by different peoples. This unusual layout developed from the General's theories concerning the evolution of ideas. You can find not only what may be regarded as beautiful or valuable but also many examples of simple, everyday objects which reveal how people have lived and thought. This gives the collection a unique quality since it contains material not usually treasured or preserved. A large percentage of the collection is on show.

The Pitt Rivers still retains its Victorian atmosphere. The cluttered cases, the original small handwritten labels and the absence of intrusive text-panels all contribute to the special experience it offers. Visitors interested in psychology, sociology, medicine, arts and crafts, comparative religion, music, in fact almost any profession or hobby, will find plenty to intrigue them. It is also a fascinating place for those studying changing historical attitudes.

There are other Musea here that I want to see also. Will do some more research.

16th January 2007, 12:53 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Peabody Essex Museum in Salem Mass. Higgins Armory Worcester Mass. (I have yet to visit) The Hermitage St. Petersburg RU. Kremlin Museum Moscow RU.

16th January 2007, 01:27 AM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	If you get up to Canada, I can suggest the Royal Ontario Museum and Casa Loma in Toronto. The ROM has an extensive asian collection with emphasis on China and Japan, a sizable native Indian section, and also a fairly large weapons and war exhibit. I'd suggest you visit it after June 2007 when the new additions will be complete. Casa Loma, a small castle - the fancy of Sir Henry Pellat, Commander of the Queen's Own Rifles regiment - also has a weapons room if I recall correctly. You can also visit Fort York, the remains of an old garrison. In Quebec City I recommend the Citadel and there are various other musea in the old city. In Romania I've visited the National Military Museum in Bucharest, which has a very nice and large collection basically covering the entire military history of the Romanian people. The Peles Palace in Sinaia is a wonder to see, with a phenomenal hunting/arms hall full of weapons from around the world and all times . Then again, if you get to that part of the world, there's LOTS to see in Romania and the neighbouring countries. Emanuel

16th January 2007, 03:56 AM	#4
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	The Topkapi is someplace I'd like to visit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topkapi_Palace

16th January 2007, 04:04 AM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IN MY AREA THERE ARE QUITE A FEW MUSEUMS DEALING WITH THE OLD WEST. THERE ARE SOME GOOD COLLECTIONS OF NATIVE AMERICAN ARTEFACTS MIXED IN WITH ART AND WESTERN ITEMS. IN TOWN THERE IS PHILBROOK (ART AND INDIAN POTTERY WITH A FEW WEAPONS), GILCREASE (MOSTLY ART BUT SOME ETHINOGRAPHIC ITEMS AND A LOT OF NATIVE AMERICAN ITEMS FROM SPIRO MOUNDS) ,THE ORIENTAL ARTS MUSEUM (MOSTLY MODERN CHINESE ART WITH A FEW GOOD OLD ITEMS) IN CLAREMORE 25 MILES AWAY THERE IS THE DAVIS GUN MUSEUM (BILLED AS THE LARGEST PRIVATE COLLECTION OF GUNS IN THE WORLD) IT ALSO HAS SOME EDGED WEAPONS , NATIVE AMERICAN ITEMS AS WELL AS OTHER INTERESTING ITEMS. THE WILL RODGERS MUSEUM (WESTERN ITEMS, NATIVE AMERICAN AND WILL RODGERS ITEMS) NORTH OF TULSA IS THE WOLAROCK MUSEUM (MY FAVORITE IT HAS GUNS, EDGED WEAPONS,NATIVE AMERICAN AND OTHER NEAT ITEMS) I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE OLD HUNTING LODGE WHERE THE EARLY OIL MEN AND CELEBRITYS USED TO HANG OUT AND GAMBLE. THE HISTORY OF THE PHILLIPS RANCH IS VERY INTERESTING BY ITS SELF. THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER SMALL MUSEUMS AROUND THE STATE FROM A BARBED WIRE MUSEUM TO A LININ MUSEUM. THERE IS A SMALL MUSEUM IN OKLAHOMA CITY THAT HAS SOME INCERDIBLE ITEMS FROM WW2 IN IT. THE MUSEUM IS ABOUT THE UNIT THAT TOOK HITLERS EAGLES NEST AND BROUGHT BACK LOTS OF SOUVINEERS FROM THERE. ITS DIFFICULT TO SAY WHICH MUSEUMS IN OTHER COUNTRYS ARE BEST AS THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD ONES. THE BRITISH MUSEUM IN LONDON IS GREAT, WARRWICK CASTLE UP NEAR STRATFORD IS VERY GOOD THE GREAT HALL IS NOT TO BE MISSED, LOTS OF WEAPONS THRU OUT AS WELL AS A GHOST AND A VERY CREEPY DUNGEON. THE KROLLER MULLER MUSEUM (NETHERLANDS OR GERMANY ) IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GOOD ETHINOGRAPHIC COLLECTION BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SEE IT BUT DID SEE THE BEST VAN GOUGH PAINTINGS I HAVE SEEN THERE. THERE IS A ETHINOGRAPHIC MUSEUM IN PARIS THAT HAS SOME VERY GOOD EXAMPLES OF AFRICAN AND OCEANIC ART AND WEAPONS. THE NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUM IN PARIS IS THE OLD FASHONED KIND I LIKE BEST AND HAS SOME GREAT SPECIMINS. THE OTHER ARMS MUSEUM I MENTIONED IN PARIS IS ALSO VERY GOOD BUT DEALS WITH MILITARY AND COURT ITEMS NOT ETHINOGRAPHIC. THERE ARE MANY MORE BUT I WILL END HERE FOR NOW.

16th January 2007, 02:30 PM	#6
dennee Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 186	Pitt-Rivers Museum, Oxford. Examples from many cultures, but probably the best Naga collection in the world.

16th January 2007, 04:16 PM	#7
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	The Smithsonian, at least the National Museum of Natural History, is surprisingly deficient in ethnographic weaponry. On display there are only perhaps two cases of weapons (most being mixed-use tools/weapons). They do have more in their stacks, but from what I saw of their Southeast Asian collection a couple years back, it is very patchy. I have not see the collections of the Freer or Shackler galleries, but if what is on display is any indication, they are thin in the weapons area as well. The Freer has one middle eastern dagger on display (I forget where it is from exactly), and the Shackler only has a handful of ceremonial stone axe heads on display. There is one magnificent Thai sword on display at the Museum of American history, in an out-of-the-way case containing various items given to Presidents by foreign heads of state. The Thai sword has a blade resembling that of a katana, but of damascus. Beautifully mounted.

16th January 2007, 04:31 PM	#8
sabertasche Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 149	Calgary Alberta, Canada has the Glenbow Museum. Half of the 4th foor is dedicated to arms and armour from many cultures. The museum is particularily strong in Japanese arms and armour but very little of it is actually on display. Still, the sections on swords and clubs from all cultures is great. For those who like military stuff there is also the Musuem of the Regiments, HMCS Tecumseh Calgary Naval Museum and the Calgary Air Museum, - all located in Calgary. The M ofthe Regiments and the Naval museum are exceptional. Cheers, Greg