Philippine Spear

ligpo2001 · 14th January 2007, 03:07 AM

I agree with Tim that this spear will not be effective for whales and other large marine animals.

What confuses me if that if I were to assume that the weapon is for small mammals, then how come it was made with only one barb? Logic would indicate that one barb will be less effective in holding the head in place within the speared animal that if there were more barbs.

Robert · 14th January 2007, 03:38 AM

I would have to say that the original spear at the beginning of the thread was most likely for medium to larger fish. The shaft behind the tip is short but the tip has a large barb with a wide back for holding. Harpoons for very large animals or fish most often have a long shaft for deeper penetration through thick skin and blubber in hopes of hitting vital organs to help in the quicker death of the intended target. As far as multiple barbs over a single the holding power is mostly dependent on the width of the back side of the barb and the length of the barb itself.

Robert

VANDOO · 14th January 2007, 03:45 AM

IN A RIVER OR LAKE OR SHALLOW WATER THE HUNTED ANIMAL DOSEN'T HAVE AS DEEP OR LARGE AN AREA TO TRY TO ESCAPE. SO IT IS LIKELY YOU WILL HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO USE SEVERAL HARPOONS OR SPEARS TO FINISH HIM OFF AND THEN A SMALL LINE TO PULL THE CARCASS UP TO THE SURFACE AND TIE A LARGER LINE ON TO PULL THE CRITTER IN OR TOW HIM ALONG SIDE THE BOAT.
THE MAIN REASON I CAN SEE FOR NOT MAKEING THE BARBS MORE NUMEROUS OR FACEING BOTH WAYS IS SO IT CAN BE MORE EASILY REMOVED TO USE AGAIN. JUST SLIDE A SPEAR OR KNIFE DOWN BESIDE THE POINT CUT THE BARB LOOSE OPEN THE WOUND AND PULL IT FREE AND GET READY TO SPEAR THE NEXT CRITTER.

Bill M · 17th February 2007, 01:35 PM

I have what appears to be a kalinga harpoon. The head is a little loose and probably detachable, but I don't want to pull it entirely loose.

The overall picture is a little distorted, I could not, at the time I took this picture, get high enough to photgraph straight down.

Comments?

Rick · 17th February 2007, 04:44 PM

I thought I saw an example of the original spear in this post somewhere in Fagan's online catalogue.

Bill M · 17th February 2007, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I thought I saw an example of the original spear in this post somewhere in Fagan's online catalogue.

Just got a email from Ligpo2001 (OP). Maybe he will comment?

Rick · 18th February 2007, 02:59 AM

http://www.trocadero.com/faganarms/i.../en1store.html

14th January 2007, 03:07 AM	#1
ligpo2001 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 16	Not for large animals I agree with Tim that this spear will not be effective for whales and other large marine animals. What confuses me if that if I were to assume that the weapon is for small mammals, then how come it was made with only one barb? Logic would indicate that one barb will be less effective in holding the head in place within the speared animal that if there were more barbs.

17th February 2007, 01:35 PM	#4
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	I have what appears to be a kalinga harpoon. The head is a little loose and probably detachable, but I don't want to pull it entirely loose. The overall picture is a little distorted, I could not, at the time I took this picture, get high enough to photgraph straight down. Comments? Attached Images

14th January 2007, 03:38 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I would have to say that the original spear at the beginning of the thread was most likely for medium to larger fish. The shaft behind the tip is short but the tip has a large barb with a wide back for holding. Harpoons for very large animals or fish most often have a long shaft for deeper penetration through thick skin and blubber in hopes of hitting vital organs to help in the quicker death of the intended target. As far as multiple barbs over a single the holding power is mostly dependent on the width of the back side of the barb and the length of the barb itself. Robert

14th January 2007, 03:45 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IN A RIVER OR LAKE OR SHALLOW WATER THE HUNTED ANIMAL DOSEN'T HAVE AS DEEP OR LARGE AN AREA TO TRY TO ESCAPE. SO IT IS LIKELY YOU WILL HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO USE SEVERAL HARPOONS OR SPEARS TO FINISH HIM OFF AND THEN A SMALL LINE TO PULL THE CARCASS UP TO THE SURFACE AND TIE A LARGER LINE ON TO PULL THE CRITTER IN OR TOW HIM ALONG SIDE THE BOAT. THE MAIN REASON I CAN SEE FOR NOT MAKEING THE BARBS MORE NUMEROUS OR FACEING BOTH WAYS IS SO IT CAN BE MORE EASILY REMOVED TO USE AGAIN. JUST SLIDE A SPEAR OR KNIFE DOWN BESIDE THE POINT CUT THE BARB LOOSE OPEN THE WOUND AND PULL IT FREE AND GET READY TO SPEAR THE NEXT CRITTER.

17th February 2007, 04:44 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	I thought I saw an example of the original spear in this post somewhere in Fagan's online catalogue.

18th February 2007, 02:59 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	http://www.trocadero.com/faganarms/i.../en1store.html