Wehrmacht officers dagger

Andrew · 11th January 2007, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip

PC-ness can be taken too far; this is an edged weapons forum and Nazi daggers do have edges, and it's possible to discuss these without having to discuss Nazism (or any other political system) itself at a venue such as this.

Exactly. Thanks, Philip.

Dajak · 11th January 2007, 05:24 PM

Hi I only know that for the real old pieces with history paid realy high prices
starting 2 or 3 times more than than this one

Ben

Henk · 11th January 2007, 06:08 PM

These weapons are no ethnographic weapons, but certainly edged weapons.

As said discussing these weapons is in my opinion no problem. We are discussing a weapon and not a political system.

I know that there are many colectors of these military weapons. If you want to purchase such a weapon go to a collectors fair. Talk with collectors and try to find a reliable seller who has knowledge of these things. On these fairs you get fast enough the directions where you have to go.

fenlander · 12th January 2007, 12:16 PM

Actually although the weapons are expensive on his site, for what they claim to be they don't seem expensive enough.

CharlesS · 12th January 2007, 02:04 PM

There are plenty of over venues for such pieces. I do not think it qualifies as an ethnographic piece, and is hardly antique.

I do not believe this type of piece belongs on this particular forum, lest we open ourselves up for far more examples that fall far outside the intended study of this forum.

Sorry. I disagree with some of you, but disagreement is not such a terrible thing.

Mark · 12th January 2007, 03:15 PM

I just made a post on the topic of what is "ethnographic" in this thread:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...0177#post40177

Philip · 13th January 2007, 02:03 AM

I liked your definition on the other thread, but how about summarizing it and putting it in a "sticky" at the top of the Ethno board to remind us all?

I agree with Charles and some others that inclusion of any threads dealing with regulation-pattern military weapons, the products of Western or modernized
Asian factory systems, might dilute the unique ethnographic focus of this discussion board, and since there are other fora out there that devote themselves to such topics, the aficionadoes of these arms are in no wise being deprived if the subject matter is considered OT in this venue.

However, I relish the occasional inclusion of discussions of European blades (even if ex-military or exported-for-profit) since quite a few of these turn up hilted in African, Native American, and Asiatic fittings. It might be a case of intellectual inconsistency on my part, so I am girding for any potential tomatoes and dead cabbages flung in my direction.

12th January 2007, 12:16 PM	#4
fenlander Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 62	thanks Actually although the weapons are expensive on his site, for what they claim to be they don't seem expensive enough.

13th January 2007, 02:03 AM	#7
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	Mark, how about a suggestion? I liked your definition on the other thread, but how about summarizing it and putting it in a "sticky" at the top of the Ethno board to remind us all? I agree with Charles and some others that inclusion of any threads dealing with regulation-pattern military weapons, the products of Western or modernized Asian factory systems, might dilute the unique ethnographic focus of this discussion board, and since there are other fora out there that devote themselves to such topics, the aficionadoes of these arms are in no wise being deprived if the subject matter is considered OT in this venue. However, I relish the occasional inclusion of discussions of European blades (even if ex-military or exported-for-profit) since quite a few of these turn up hilted in African, Native American, and Asiatic fittings. It might be a case of intellectual inconsistency on my part, so I am girding for any potential tomatoes and dead cabbages flung in my direction.

11th January 2007, 05:24 PM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi I only know that for the real old pieces with history paid realy high prices starting 2 or 3 times more than than this one Ben

11th January 2007, 06:08 PM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	These weapons are no ethnographic weapons, but certainly edged weapons. As said discussing these weapons is in my opinion no problem. We are discussing a weapon and not a political system. I know that there are many colectors of these military weapons. If you want to purchase such a weapon go to a collectors fair. Talk with collectors and try to find a reliable seller who has knowledge of these things. On these fairs you get fast enough the directions where you have to go.

12th January 2007, 02:04 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	There are plenty of over venues for such pieces. I do not think it qualifies as an ethnographic piece, and is hardly antique. I do not believe this type of piece belongs on this particular forum, lest we open ourselves up for far more examples that fall far outside the intended study of this forum. Sorry. I disagree with some of you, but disagreement is not such a terrible thing.

12th January 2007, 03:15 PM	#6
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	I just made a post on the topic of what is "ethnographic" in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...0177#post40177