Bendo

Alam Shah · 6th January 2007, 01:06 AM

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Bendo (java)/benda (malay) literally translated means 'a thing'.

Here is my parang pendek, a 1982 piece, with a spring steel blade. Check out the stamping on the blade. Just a comparison.

Here, a 19th century piece with horn sheath, not a bendo but a badik, for comparison.

paolo · 6th January 2007, 08:18 AM

Night is the mother of counsel : might be that a newer blade was added to an older hilt and sheat ? Pheraps the origial blade was worn for use ?
However thank you for the very useful interesting inputs you give to a neophyte like I'm

Regards
Paolo

Rick · 6th January 2007, 03:02 PM

I think this bendo is complete and original.
The blade is not IMO an import; rather it most likely bears the mark of the local smith .
My guesstimation of age is mid 20th C.

paolo · 15th January 2007, 04:30 PM

Thank You for your help.
Regards
Paolo

ferrylaki · 16th January 2007, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by paolo

Thank You for your help.
Regards
Paolo

hi all,
as a javanese I would like to say that this bendo possibly a new made.
old bendo would not have the scrath/ those lines couse from sharpening tools.
most javanese bendo made from very soft iron with no specialities such as beautifil shape/dimension, easily sharpen and easy to be dulled.
bendo mostly used as a tool than a weapon. farmer and trader in the market use them mosly. recent made and old bendo used to have black colour as a preventation to the rust. the blade are mostly thin using wooden holder.

old javanese prever to use kerises or pedang/sword as a weapon.
it is very hard to find an old bendo couse it usually rusted badly during its age.
bendo are very cheap in its origin(java/indonesia)

i will try to find an old bendo for you guys....since I'm a new member in this forum I'll try to share any information I could give.

as information for this forum....I just knew that antique dealers in jakarta Indonesia show me this kind of old Dutch Klewang...is it worth to be collect?
as a new member I'd like to get some advice....they offered this klewang fer US$ 65 each. 30 pieces they have.

thanks....
ferrylaki

A. G. Maisey · 16th January 2007, 04:07 AM

Paolo, I'm not at all certain that the name for this implement that you have posted pics of is "bendo".

In Javanese the correct spelling of "bendo" is "bendho"---the "o" is slightly aspirated. Bendho is a Javanese word and I do not know if it is found in Sundanese.

The implement you have shown pics of appears to be from Sunda, probably Bandung production.

I know that van Zonneveldt shows it as a "bendo", but he draws upon another source, so we cannot hold him responsible for the name.

It may be that in Sunda this implement is known as a "bendo", but if it is, it must not be confused with the bendho of Central Jawa.

The bendho that we use in Central Jawa is a completely different shape to the shape of the implement that you show.As ferrylaki advises, in Central Jawa these days it is used as a tool, however, in earlier times it was used as a weapon.

As I state above, the Javanese name for a particular type of cutting implement is "bendho". The word "bendo" does not exist in Javanese, however, in Indonesian, which is based upon a dialect of Malay, the word "benda" does exist, which means "thing". In colloquial Javanese speech this word "benda" would be pronounced "bendo" by many, if not most speakers, when they were using Indonesian.

Ferrylaki, I note that you live in Solo. If you would like to see some examples of old bendho, may I suggest you visit Musium Radyapustaka on Jalan Slamet Riyadi, near Sri Wedari.

ferrylaki · 16th January 2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Paolo, I'm not at all certain that the name for this implement that you have posted pics of is "bendo".

In Javanese the correct spelling of "bendo" is "bendho"---the "o" is slightly aspirated. Bendho is a Javanese word and I do not know if it is found in Sundanese.

The implement you have shown pics of appears to be from Sunda, probably Bandung production.

I know that van Zonneveldt shows it as a "bendo", but he draws upon another source, so we cannot hold him responsible for the name.

It may be that in Sunda this implement is known as a "bendo", but if it is, it must not be confused with the bendho of Central Jawa.

The bendho that we use in Central Jawa is a completely different shape to the shape of the implement that you show.As ferrylaki advises, in Central Jawa these days it is used as a tool, however, in earlier times it was used as a weapon.

As I state above, the Javanese name for a particular type of cutting implement is "bendho". The word "bendo" does not exist in Javanese, however, in Indonesian, which is based upon a dialect of Malay, the word "benda" does exist, which means "thing". In colloquial Javanese speech this word "benda" would be pronounced "bendo" by many, if not most speakers, when they were using Indonesian.

Ferrylaki, I note that you live in Solo. If you would like to see some examples of old bendho, may I suggest you visit Musium Radyapustaka on Jalan Slamet Riyadi, near Sri Wedari.

I'm going to visit the museum next week. during muharam there will be a ceremonial in solo. peoplegonna show pusaka from the old keraton collection. I'll try to get some pictures from old 'bendho' in the museum. may be I'll add more pictures about old javanese weapon also.
thax again....

Pangeran Datu · 17th January 2007, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

....... Bendho is a Javanese word and I do not know if it is found in Sundanese.

The implement you have shown pics of appears to be from Sunda, probably Bandung production.

I know that van Zonneveldt shows it as a "bendo", but he draws upon another source, so we cannot hold him responsible for the name.

It may be that in Sunda this implement is known as a "bendo", but if it is, it must not be confused with the bendho of Central Jawa.

G'day all,

Just passing and thought I'd buy into this.

The Sundanese, particularly from Parahyangan (most of West Java), would generally refer to the implement being discussed, as a 'bedog' which may be interchanged with the Malay/Indonesian word 'golok'. Bedog can be found in many shapes and sizes, depending on application/usage, from a stubby wide-bladed one (akin to a berang) to a long slender one (akin to a pedang and most commonly used implement in penca-silat). Traditionally, it was the chosen everyday implement of the common folk and would be as common in households as a knife. Being such a common everyday item, it was usually constructed of soft metal, with the handle and scabbard being of soft wood, such as 'albasia'. So, no Empu needed here

Of course, like everything else, you always get fancier versions.

The word 'bendo' does exist in Basa (language) Sunda and refers to the stylised ikat/headgear, akin to the Javanese 'blangkon'.

Cheers.

6th January 2007, 01:06 AM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Another lookup shows that UKI could also be an acronym for United Kingdom and Ireland (UKI) . Bendo (java)/benda (malay) literally translated means 'a thing'. Here is my parang pendek, a 1982 piece, with a spring steel blade. Check out the stamping on the blade. Just a comparison. Here, a 19th century piece with horn sheath, not a bendo but a badik, for comparison. Last edited by Alam Shah; 6th January 2007 at 10:39 AM. Reason: add links

6th January 2007, 08:18 AM	#2
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	Night is the mother of counsel : might be that a newer blade was added to an older hilt and sheat ? Pheraps the origial blade was worn for use ? However thank you for the very useful interesting inputs you give to a neophyte like I'm Regards Paolo

6th January 2007, 03:02 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I think this bendo is complete and original. The blade is not IMO an import; rather it most likely bears the mark of the local smith . My guesstimation of age is mid 20th C.

15th January 2007, 04:30 PM	#4
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	Thank You for your help. Regards Paolo

16th January 2007, 04:07 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Paolo, I'm not at all certain that the name for this implement that you have posted pics of is "bendo". In Javanese the correct spelling of "bendo" is "bendho"---the "o" is slightly aspirated. Bendho is a Javanese word and I do not know if it is found in Sundanese. The implement you have shown pics of appears to be from Sunda, probably Bandung production. I know that van Zonneveldt shows it as a "bendo", but he draws upon another source, so we cannot hold him responsible for the name. It may be that in Sunda this implement is known as a "bendo", but if it is, it must not be confused with the bendho of Central Jawa. The bendho that we use in Central Jawa is a completely different shape to the shape of the implement that you show.As ferrylaki advises, in Central Jawa these days it is used as a tool, however, in earlier times it was used as a weapon. As I state above, the Javanese name for a particular type of cutting implement is "bendho". The word "bendo" does not exist in Javanese, however, in Indonesian, which is based upon a dialect of Malay, the word "benda" does exist, which means "thing". In colloquial Javanese speech this word "benda" would be pronounced "bendo" by many, if not most speakers, when they were using Indonesian. Ferrylaki, I note that you live in Solo. If you would like to see some examples of old bendho, may I suggest you visit Musium Radyapustaka on Jalan Slamet Riyadi, near Sri Wedari.