Magnetic stand for weapons

Bill M · 3rd January 2007, 11:50 PM

Very nice stand, Luc.

Here is my attempt with magnest.

These Moro weapons are held in place by 1.5 inch long x 1 inch wide x 1/4 in thick neodymium magnets behind the cloth. I sawed a slot in a piece of oak board, screwed the board to the wall, inserted the magnets and then put the cloth to hide the board and additionally protect the blades.

If you use neodymium magnets, be VERY careful. Unbelievably powerful. I got these on eBay from a company called "Rattlesnake." Well named. Two magnets will attract each other violently.

Not so dangerous just holding the steel blade but they hold it very well and the cloth keeps them from scratching the blades.

Dajak · 4th January 2007, 01:38 AM

Hi nice idea whit the magnets

regards, ben

wolviex · 4th January 2007, 08:04 AM

LUC! Great Idea, I would like to have someting like that! Is is available somewhere? If you cannot mention dealer and the price here, please send me PM or email: wolviex@poczta.onet.pl
Many thanks in advance!

Lew · 4th January 2007, 03:15 PM

Here is where I buy the ones I use to mount on the wall.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?cat=86

Lew

Emanuel · 4th January 2007, 04:36 PM

Hello,

This is a fantastic device, I'll certainly give it a try. What do you do with the scabbards though? In many, if not most, they're works of art in their own right. How to reconcile both the sword ans its scabbard on a presentation armature? Bill, I see that some of the scabbards are included in the glass case of your exhibit, but what do you do with the rest of them?
Perhaps some cloth wound around the scabbard and held to the magnet with a metal piece/washer could do the trick?

Regards,
Emanuel

katana · 4th January 2007, 08:10 PM

Interesting that this thread came up. I have been working on the idea of making wall brackets out of clear perspex/acrylic with neodymium magnets embedded.Basically a clear plastic rod is fixed to a bracket (to fix to the wall) at the end of the rod is attached the magnet and a felt protective piece. The rod could be 4-8 " depending on the thickness. Two would be needed to mount a sword horizontally. Once the sword is 'magnetically stuck' the only visible part of the bracket would be the clear plastic. The added bonus is ....because the bracket 'base' is clear....the surface of the wall will show through ...helping to hide it.

The idea was to create the illusion the sword was 'floating' next to the wall.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 4th January 2007, 09:36 PM

Here some pics I have made recently with scabbards.
On the photo with knives in the scabbard, I use the magnetic stand.
Luc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manolo

Hello,

This is a fantastic device, I'll certainly give it a try. What do you do with the scabbards though? In many, if not most, they're works of art in their own right. How to reconcile both the sword ans its scabbard on a presentation armature? Bill, I see that some of the scabbards are included in the glass case of your exhibit, but what do you do with the rest of them?
Perhaps some cloth wound around the scabbard and held to the magnet with a metal piece/washer could do the trick?

Regards,
Emanuel

katana · 4th January 2007, 10:12 PM

Luc....they look excellent.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 4th January 2007, 10:46 PM

Nice wall Bill with good light.
In fact I've hurt myself with the magnets 2 or 3 time, my fingers remember this moment...
Luc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

Very nice stand, Luc.

Here is my attempt with magnest.

These Moro weapons are held in place by 1.5 inch long x 1 inch wide x 1/4 in thick neodymium magnets behind the cloth. I sawed a slot in a piece of oak board, screwed the board to the wall, inserted the magnets and then put the cloth to hide the board and additionally protect the blades.

If you use neodymium magnets, be VERY careful. Unbelievably powerful. I got these on eBay from a company called "Rattlesnake." Well named. Two magnets will attract each other violently.

Not so dangerous just holding the steel blade but they hold it very well and the cloth keeps them from scratching the blades.

Bill M · 4th January 2007, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc LEFEBVRE

Nice wall Bill with good light.
In fact I've hurt myself with the magnets 2 or 3 time, my fingers remember this moment...
Luc

Thanks Luc,

I have had 1 inch square magnets snap together with enough force to give me blood blisters. The bigger ones can actually break bones. It is unreal how powerfully they attract each other.

A six inch diameter by two inch thick can hold up 1175 POUNDS of iron and they are much more powerful attracting another magnet. The seller says this about a 6" x 2" magnet.

"This is an EXTREMELY Powerful Magnet! The end user MUST USE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS when unpacking and using this magnet. Remove all metal objects within a 5 foot radius before unpacking. Magnets of this size and strength can pull metals objects to them when brought too close. Two magnets of this size will fly together with great force and can break bones."

I am very careful when using 1" x 1.5" magnets, but they sure hold a sword well. They will each lift about 55 pounds of steel.

Emanuel · 5th January 2007, 02:31 AM

If these magnets are so strong, then can they attract the blade through the wood (or whatever) of the scabbard? Furthermore, is it difficult to separate the blades from the magnets?

Luc, In the picture where the scabbard is alone on the stand, how is it held? Is there a bracket around it?

Thanks all for these examples, they're a great way to present weapons...and anything else for that matter.

Emanuel

Bill M · 5th January 2007, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manolo

If these magnets are so strong, then can they attract the blade through the wood (or whatever) of the scabbard? Furthermore, is it difficult to separate the blades from the magnets?
Emanuel

They would easily attract the blade through the scabbard. I have over 1/4" of wood between my blades and the magnets, and a piece of thick cloth. I just like to see the blades and many Moro swords have lost their scabbards.

The magnet is difficult to remove from the sword blade if it is directly in contact.

Spunjer · 17th April 2007, 01:46 PM

will these magnets leave marks on the blade? how would one prevent that?

Bill M · 17th April 2007, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

will these magnets leave marks on the blade? how would one prevent that?

I don't think that the magnets will leave marks on the blades. However I have a piece of thin wood between the blade and the magnet. The problem is that the magnets are very powerful, very slick surface and difficult to attach to the wall or backdrop.

I am going to try some epoxy to hold the magnets to a board and then just use a thick cloth to go between them and the blades. The thickness of the wood weakens the magnetic attraction and am concerned they might not hold well enough.

While the magnets are powerful, the distance between is a large factor.

I stress again that these magnets are very powerful and dangerous -- particularly to each other -- less so to steel or iron. Two magnets will bite you! I have blood blisters to prove it! They are also brittle.

3rd January 2007, 11:50 PM	#1
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Very nice stand, Luc. Here is my attempt with magnest. These Moro weapons are held in place by 1.5 inch long x 1 inch wide x 1/4 in thick neodymium magnets behind the cloth. I sawed a slot in a piece of oak board, screwed the board to the wall, inserted the magnets and then put the cloth to hide the board and additionally protect the blades. If you use neodymium magnets, be VERY careful. Unbelievably powerful. I got these on eBay from a company called "Rattlesnake." Well named. Two magnets will attract each other violently. Not so dangerous just holding the steel blade but they hold it very well and the cloth keeps them from scratching the blades. Attached Images

4th January 2007, 08:10 PM	#6
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Interesting that this thread came up. I have been working on the idea of making wall brackets out of clear perspex/acrylic with neodymium magnets embedded.Basically a clear plastic rod is fixed to a bracket (to fix to the wall) at the end of the rod is attached the magnet and a felt protective piece. The rod could be 4-8 " depending on the thickness. Two would be needed to mount a sword horizontally. Once the sword is 'magnetically stuck' the only visible part of the bracket would be the clear plastic. The added bonus is ....because the bracket 'base' is clear....the surface of the wall will show through ...helping to hide it. The idea was to create the illusion the sword was 'floating' next to the wall. Attached Images Last edited by katana; 4th January 2007 at 10:16 PM.

4th January 2007, 01:38 AM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi nice idea whit the magnets regards, ben

4th January 2007, 08:04 AM	#3
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 418	LUC! Great Idea, I would like to have someting like that! Is is available somewhere? If you cannot mention dealer and the price here, please send me PM or email: wolviex@poczta.onet.pl Many thanks in advance!

4th January 2007, 03:15 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here is where I buy the ones I use to mount on the wall. http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?cat=86 Lew

4th January 2007, 04:36 PM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hello, This is a fantastic device, I'll certainly give it a try. What do you do with the scabbards though? In many, if not most, they're works of art in their own right. How to reconcile both the sword ans its scabbard on a presentation armature? Bill, I see that some of the scabbards are included in the glass case of your exhibit, but what do you do with the rest of them? Perhaps some cloth wound around the scabbard and held to the magnet with a metal piece/washer could do the trick? Regards, Emanuel

4th January 2007, 10:12 PM	#8
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Luc....they look excellent.

5th January 2007, 02:31 AM	#11
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	If these magnets are so strong, then can they attract the blade through the wood (or whatever) of the scabbard? Furthermore, is it difficult to separate the blades from the magnets? Luc, In the picture where the scabbard is alone on the stand, how is it held? Is there a bracket around it? Thanks all for these examples, they're a great way to present weapons...and anything else for that matter. Emanuel

17th April 2007, 01:46 PM	#13
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	will these magnets leave marks on the blade? how would one prevent that?