Moro keris without clamps

CharlesS · 28th December 2006, 01:14 PM

Beautiful, intersting, blade. The hilt pommel appears original, but the ferrule does not seem to be of the same quality...perhaps bone?

There is, indeed, a place for the baca baca, but it appears to have been ground down.

The hilt has certainly been rewrapped, I think fairly recently.

Again, a lovely blade, but the rest may have been worked up to create an attractive, but composite piece. Even so, there is also a possibility that it was reworked in this manner to create an attractive, later, presentation piece.

David · 28th December 2006, 02:09 PM

Does anyone else think that this blade might be of Indonesian origin?
Beautiful BTW.

kai · 28th December 2006, 03:56 PM

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Does anyone else think that this blade might be of Indonesian origin?

I'm with David - I'm also convinced that the blade was crafted in Indonesia or Malaysia (and most likely all fittings, too). Looks like a piece which Adni could have sold...

Paolo, are those pics from Artzi?

I don't think the blade was ever supposed to be fitted with an Asang-asang - the file work in that area resembles more the usual keris style and is one of the reasons why I think a keris smith made this blade. It also seems to have regular pamor. The latter seems to be invariably present on modern reproductions by Maduranese smiths. However, this piece looks nicer than all those "Madura Kris" I've seen and I'd be tempted to believe this is a genuine (vintage?) Malay/Straits piece with new(er) quality fittings. Maybe our forumites from Singapore can chime in?

Regards,
Kai

paolo · 28th December 2006, 04:05 PM

I don't bought it by Adni. The seller was Asoka arts in England. I took the pics.
Paolo

paolo · 28th December 2006, 04:08 PM

You seems interested to the blade, so I send two other pics, not too good, of the pamor.
Regards
Paolo

Alam Shah · 28th December 2006, 05:12 PM

Hi Paolo,
From the fittings, looks like a Malay Sundang of Peninsular Malaysia.

It is common to find Malay Sundang without the clamps.

Here is one example. Note the difference in blade material. The fittings are similar.
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ker...elayu_luk5.htm

paolo · 28th December 2006, 07:04 PM

How old do you think the keris might be ?
Regards
Paolo

28th December 2006, 04:08 PM	#5
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	You seems interested to the blade, so I send two other pics, not too good, of the pamor. Regards Paolo Attached Images

28th December 2006, 01:14 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Beautiful, intersting, blade. The hilt pommel appears original, but the ferrule does not seem to be of the same quality...perhaps bone? There is, indeed, a place for the baca baca, but it appears to have been ground down. The hilt has certainly been rewrapped, I think fairly recently. Again, a lovely blade, but the rest may have been worked up to create an attractive, but composite piece. Even so, there is also a possibility that it was reworked in this manner to create an attractive, later, presentation piece.

28th December 2006, 02:09 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Does anyone else think that this blade might be of Indonesian origin? Beautiful BTW.

28th December 2006, 04:05 PM	#4
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	I don't bought it by Adni. The seller was Asoka arts in England. I took the pics. Paolo

28th December 2006, 05:12 PM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi Paolo, From the fittings, looks like a Malay Sundang of Peninsular Malaysia. It is common to find Malay Sundang without the clamps. Here is one example. Note the difference in blade material. The fittings are similar. http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ker...elayu_luk5.htm

28th December 2006, 07:04 PM	#7
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	How old do you think the keris might be ? Regards Paolo