How to disconnect the handle of a tulwar?

[RhysMichael]

I have never taken on apart myself but I have been told that heat can remove it. I have also heard you can still get Zaje Sefid the original resin used to secure them. I'll see what more I can find

[Flavio]

Thank you Michael, i'm waiting

[RhysMichael]

It seems most resins fail at about 200 degrees. I do not know what type of handle it is and how that would effect any koftgari and such. Phillip or Jose would be the people to ask about that. That temperature should not affect the blade. I have read that boiling water will work but other sources tell me it is not hot enough. Some tulwar hilts have a pin running through the tang, near or between the "quillions" but usually they are held together solely by the adhesive Ariel can probably be much more help on this

If you cannot get the original here is a recipe for cutlers resin

http://blackpowderonline.com/cutlrsresin.htm

[Flavio]

Thank you very much I will try and i will not have problems with koftgari because the handle it's completly covered with deep rust . Thank you again

[Bill M]

Nomally with resin mounts I hold the handle and gently heat the blade near the handle with a propane torch while holding the handle in an upright position. The heat travels upward into the handle, melting the resin.

If you keep your hand on the handle, (or the blade) you can guage the heat buildup. Take it slowly so you do not remove the temper from the blade, but should come loose in about 20-30 seconds.

In your case, since you do not care about the handle, I would heat the handle with the blade tip up until the handle falls off.

[RhysMichael]

Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

Nomally with resin mounts I hold the handle and gently heat the blade near the handle with a propane torch while holding the handle in an upright position. The heat travels upward into the handle, melting the resin.

If you keep your hand on the handle, (or the blade) you can guage the heat buildup. Take it slowly so you do not remove the temper from the blade, but should come loose in about 20-30 seconds.

In your case, since you do not care about the handle, I would heat the handle with the blade tip up until the handle falls off.

Thanks Bill
As I said above I have never done it only read about it. So its always good to hear from someone with experience. Some sources ('Persian arms and Armor'-Museum Malbrook ISBN 83-86206-31-4 Plate 38,39) talk about molten alum was poured in first then a plug of pine rosin was added to waterproof the assembly. I don't know the temperature that alum melts at


Sorry this stuff is comming piecemeal, Flavio I am adding it as I dig out the stuff I had read on it before when I was thinking about repairing a tulwar I had

[katana]

Originally Posted by RhysMichael

. Some sources ('Persian arms and Armor'-Museum Malbrook ISBN 83-86206-31-4 Plate 38,39) talk about molten alum was poured in first then a plug of pine rosin was added to waterproof the assembly. I don't know the temperature that alum melts at

....The melting point of alum is 92.5oC.... I do not know whether the fumes produced are harmful or not....so I would advise caution.....just in case

[Flavio]

Michael, Bill, thank you very much: DONE!!! I have put the handle on fire (on a stove in the kitchen ) just a minute and the resin became softer and the handle can be simple removed!! The blade seems good. Now i will try to put in acid (lemon or vinegar) the handle and just see what happens. Anyway now i need a tulwar handle: nobody here has one?
Thank you very much for the help

P.S. i will post some pics

[Flavio]

Here we go! Some pics of the blade (with a side with a fisrt step of cleaning and the other in the original situation) and the handle that in the general shape is nice but in very bad conditions. If someone has an handle please contact me. Thank you