my first keris

William.m · 28th November 2006, 11:05 PM

Hi Tim, looks like a nice piece, I almost put in a bid but lucky for you I forgot! haha

If your going up north anytime soon there is an excellent antique shop in york that has quite a few keris for sale. I picked up one when I was visiting last month. Can't remember what the shop was called but its in the shambles district.

Will

Tim Simmons · 1st December 2006, 10:55 AM

I do not know about composite but I think it sucks! The sellers use of "used" is just a euphemism for brand spanking new

. I paid less for the all metal lance and the Naga dao both wonderful pieces, I said my luck would run out. It seems to rely on wieght rather than any really skilled tempering of the blade. Used is a very meaningless term, something to remember. It was probably made for tourists. pictures of the crap to follow

Alam Shah · 1st December 2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I do not know about composite but I think it sucks!

Hi Tim, the small eBay pictures were misleading.

I was expecting to see two properly formed grooves (sogokan depan and sogokan belakang) at the bottom centre of the blade, not two lines of what seems to be formed by a grinder and looked unfinished.

The nice part of this ensemble is, the hilt ring (pendokok). A Malay Straits model. Although it looks new, it's well-formed.

Rick · 1st December 2006, 02:47 PM

Tim, is this experience going to sour you on keris?

This piece is much better than the first K.L.O. I purchased.

Be of good cheer. <pats Tim on the back>

Rick

Tim Simmons · 1st December 2006, 04:26 PM

No Rick, I am on my guard now. The seller failed to mention the rare "ha ha knobend" pamor

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Tim Simmons · 1st December 2006, 07:13 PM

I am not trying to pull this back from the abyss but this side of the blade shows some signs of forging and folding so I am not sure it has been wholly ground to shape. It is still brand new though.

Tim Simmons · 1st December 2006, 08:33 PM

I just want to ask now that this is obviously a brand new piece. The quallity is a matter of taste. Does it still represent a composite piece? What would be the point especially if sold to tourists. There are no composite pieces in the collecting of African work, it is said to have neighbouring influences. Composite to me seems to have a collectors tone of disapproval. Do I need to study more?

1st December 2006, 10:55 AM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	It is here, what a sucker! I do not know about composite but I think it sucks! The sellers use of "used" is just a euphemism for brand spanking new . I paid less for the all metal lance and the Naga dao both wonderful pieces, I said my luck would run out. It seems to rely on wieght rather than any really skilled tempering of the blade. Used is a very meaningless term, something to remember. It was probably made for tourists. pictures of the crap to follow Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 1st December 2006 at 11:18 AM.

28th November 2006, 11:05 PM	#1
William.m Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Posts: 104	Hi Tim, looks like a nice piece, I almost put in a bid but lucky for you I forgot! haha If your going up north anytime soon there is an excellent antique shop in york that has quite a few keris for sale. I picked up one when I was visiting last month. Can't remember what the shop was called but its in the shambles district. Will

1st December 2006, 02:47 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	Tim, is this experience going to sour you on keris? This piece is much better than the first K.L.O. I purchased. Be of good cheer. <pats Tim on the back> Rick

1st December 2006, 04:26 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	No Rick, I am on my guard now. The seller failed to mention the rare "ha ha knobend" pamor .

1st December 2006, 07:13 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	I am not trying to pull this back from the abyss but this side of the blade shows some signs of forging and folding so I am not sure it has been wholly ground to shape. It is still brand new though.

1st December 2006, 08:33 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	I just want to ask now that this is obviously a brand new piece. The quallity is a matter of taste. Does it still represent a composite piece? What would be the point especially if sold to tourists. There are no composite pieces in the collecting of African work, it is said to have neighbouring influences. Composite to me seems to have a collectors tone of disapproval. Do I need to study more?