New private bidder rules for sales on ebay.

spiral · 24th November 2006, 05:04 PM

Ive Been looking into it all afternoon Ian.

Its for all ebays sales in UK & Australia. not just live auctions.

Evrything.

The momment the bids reach £100 it gets a cloak of darkness thrown over it.

Its starting this week apparently.

As a move to wipe out second chance offers fraud.

Madness! If it puts bidders off it might evebn backfire on ebay?

But at time bieng there saying they will introduce more "improvments" in this line early next year.

Theres uproar in thier community pages, 100s of people complaining.

But ebay arnt listening of course. Just offering platitudes.

Spiral

spiral · 24th November 2006, 05:10 PM

Just looked on ebay, a sword ending in 2 hours over £100 is already bid on by

Bidder1,
Bidder2,
Bidder3

& you guessed it bidder 4 is in the lead

Thyve already done it!

Ill post it as an example as soon as its over.

Spiral

Michael Blalock · 24th November 2006, 05:26 PM

I can only imagine that eBay is doing this because they think they are loosing income from sellers contacting buyers directly with similar items to circumvent the fees. I'm sure this happens a lot, I have received such offers, but it could backfire.

spiral · 24th November 2006, 05:32 PM

Car auction just finnished.

Heres the Bidders page.

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI...m=320052200654

But its across the board anything over £100 in UK the & bidders ID has vanished.

Spiral

Rick · 24th November 2006, 05:47 PM

So when will they get around to instituting a 'Buyer's Premium' ?

katana · 24th November 2006, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiral

Car auction just finnished.
Heres the Bidders page.

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI...m=320052200654

Spiral

If you click on bidding details VIEW .. you can find info about them....its generalised...but its something

spiral · 24th November 2006, 09:20 PM

Yes I can see how it works.

What can you tell from the fact that the bidders got between 50 & 500 ebay feedback, various percentages etc? Thats of any help? Its no good for me.

It hides shill bidders. {unless they are particulary stupid ones.}

Thats the problem, I think. Goods will cost more.

Also I cant track what my regular competitors who dont snipe, are bidding on anymore!

Spiral

Lee · 25th June 2007, 11:02 PM

I do not know how long they have been doing this on US auctions, as I am not a very regular ebay bidder, but they are doing it now.

I must sadly opine that Ebay, despite having gotten so many things right at the start, is now 'losing its way.'

Unless one believes he or she can trust the integrity of a particular seller, I believe this hiding of the names in the bidder history pretty much wipes out the 'transparency' of this marketplace.

Personally, this policy will definitely cause me to hesitate to go very far beyond an 'obvious bargain bid level' on an ebay auction.

24th November 2006, 05:04 PM	#1
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Ive Been looking into it all afternoon Ian. Its for all ebays sales in UK & Australia. not just live auctions. Evrything. The momment the bids reach £100 it gets a cloak of darkness thrown over it. Its starting this week apparently. As a move to wipe out second chance offers fraud. Madness! If it puts bidders off it might evebn backfire on ebay? But at time bieng there saying they will introduce more "improvments" in this line early next year. Theres uproar in thier community pages, 100s of people complaining. But ebay arnt listening of course. Just offering platitudes. Spiral

24th November 2006, 05:10 PM	#2
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Just looked on ebay, a sword ending in 2 hours over £100 is already bid on by Bidder1, Bidder2, Bidder3 & you guessed it bidder 4 is in the lead Thyve already done it! Ill post it as an example as soon as its over. Spiral

24th November 2006, 05:26 PM	#3
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	I can only imagine that eBay is doing this because they think they are loosing income from sellers contacting buyers directly with similar items to circumvent the fees. I'm sure this happens a lot, I have received such offers, but it could backfire.

24th November 2006, 05:32 PM	#4
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Car auction just finnished. Heres the Bidders page. http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI...m=320052200654 But its across the board anything over £100 in UK the & bidders ID has vanished. Spiral

24th November 2006, 05:47 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	So when will they get around to instituting a 'Buyer's Premium' ?

24th November 2006, 09:20 PM	#7
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Yes I can see how it works. What can you tell from the fact that the bidders got between 50 & 500 ebay feedback, various percentages etc? Thats of any help? Its no good for me. It hides shill bidders. {unless they are particulary stupid ones.} Thats the problem, I think. Goods will cost more. Also I cant track what my regular competitors who dont snipe, are bidding on anymore! Spiral

25th June 2007, 11:02 PM	#8
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 970	I do not know how long they have been doing this on US auctions, as I am not a very regular ebay bidder, but they are doing it now. I must sadly opine that Ebay, despite having gotten so many things right at the start, is now 'losing its way.' Unless one believes he or she can trust the integrity of a particular seller, I believe this hiding of the names in the bidder history pretty much wipes out the 'transparency' of this marketplace. Personally, this policy will definitely cause me to hesitate to go very far beyond an 'obvious bargain bid level' on an ebay auction.