Borneo Parang Nabur or Visayan Bolo?

VVV · 13th November 2006, 07:19 PM

Hi BSM Star,

I agree that the blade and hilt of Spunjer's bolo is a bit different but I still think they are from around the same area.
It also seems like Ian thinks so in the other thread?
After this thread started I found another one of those bolos and that scabbard (haven't had time to fix it yet) also seems to be of Filipino origin.
Unfortunately I don't know enough to be sure from what region.

Michael

Spunjer · 13th November 2006, 07:33 PM

VVV,

how sure are you that the scabbard is original with the sword? i.e., does it fit well? i'm assuming if you remove the white rattan (j/k) you could clearly see the form where the blade rest.

if this is original to the blade, well, another bleeping monkey wrench...

VVV · 13th November 2006, 07:53 PM

Spunjer,

You are correct that the scabbard isn't original.
I removed the rubber rattan and checked.
Sorry for posting it before I had time to go through it properly.

Where do you think this bolo comes from?
No scabbard, with a resembling hilt made of rhino(!?).

Michael

kai · 13th November 2006, 10:48 PM

Hello Michael,

Quote:

Where do you think this bolo comes from?
No scabbard, with a resembling hilt made of rhino(!?).

These nice hilts seem to be all related regardless of some stylistic differences.

Does the horn show the rhino microstructure? I'd have guessed at aged carabao from the pics but you can verify with a magnifying glass...

Regards,
Kai

Spunjer · 14th November 2006, 05:50 AM

michael,

it's really hard to say where it's from. i could guess, but what's the point? this class of swords has been the brown belt sudoku version of the filipino sundangs, or indos for that matter. the jury is still out on this one. like kai said; u sure it's rhino???

VVV · 14th November 2006, 08:24 AM

Hi Kai and Ron,

I only do blackbelt Sudoku boards so that's why I would like to give it a try.

Riddles are supposed to be solved.

So far two forum members has mailed me that they think the last one could be from Bicol.
The only thing I am sure on is that it isn't from Borneo, an area where I feel more comfortable having an opinion about the different sword variations. And that none of the bolos in this thread are Malay Parang Nabur.

On the rhino hilt I don't have the bolo around at the moment.
But Fred, who most of you probably know, described it as rhino when he sold it to me.
I assume he has some experience in evaluating this?
But I also found it strange and will have a closer look at it later this week.
I suggest we ignore that part and focus on the hilt and blade.
Does anyone have any bolo from Bicol that resembles this one?

Michael

BSMStar · 14th November 2006, 01:48 PM

Michael,

The second "Parang Nabur" that you posted... does the hilt appear to have been replaced? The "style" seems a bit different.

13th November 2006, 07:19 PM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi BSM Star, I agree that the blade and hilt of Spunjer's bolo is a bit different but I still think they are from around the same area. It also seems like Ian thinks so in the other thread? After this thread started I found another one of those bolos and that scabbard (haven't had time to fix it yet) also seems to be of Filipino origin. Unfortunately I don't know enough to be sure from what region. Michael Attached Images

13th November 2006, 07:53 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Spunjer, You are correct that the scabbard isn't original. I removed the rubber rattan and checked. Sorry for posting it before I had time to go through it properly. Where do you think this bolo comes from? No scabbard, with a resembling hilt made of rhino(!?). Michael Attached Images

13th November 2006, 07:33 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	VVV, how sure are you that the scabbard is original with the sword? i.e., does it fit well? i'm assuming if you remove the white rattan (j/k) you could clearly see the form where the blade rest. if this is original to the blade, well, another bleeping monkey wrench...

14th November 2006, 05:50 AM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	michael, it's really hard to say where it's from. i could guess, but what's the point? this class of swords has been the brown belt sudoku version of the filipino sundangs, or indos for that matter. the jury is still out on this one. like kai said; u sure it's rhino???

14th November 2006, 08:24 AM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi Kai and Ron, I only do blackbelt Sudoku boards so that's why I would like to give it a try. Riddles are supposed to be solved. So far two forum members has mailed me that they think the last one could be from Bicol. The only thing I am sure on is that it isn't from Borneo, an area where I feel more comfortable having an opinion about the different sword variations. And that none of the bolos in this thread are Malay Parang Nabur. On the rhino hilt I don't have the bolo around at the moment. But Fred, who most of you probably know, described it as rhino when he sold it to me. I assume he has some experience in evaluating this? But I also found it strange and will have a closer look at it later this week. I suggest we ignore that part and focus on the hilt and blade. Does anyone have any bolo from Bicol that resembles this one? Michael

14th November 2006, 01:48 PM	#7
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Michael, The second "Parang Nabur" that you posted... does the hilt appear to have been replaced? The "style" seems a bit different.