Borneo Parang Nabur or Visayan Bolo?

VVV · 12th November 2006, 07:47 PM

The discussion of this sword actually continued in this thread.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...?t=1792&page=3

Batangas was brought up as a probable origin of this, by Stone, incorrect labeled sword.

Michael

BSMStar · 13th November 2006, 06:56 PM

Hi Michael,

(You have an awesome collection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I think if you compare the sword that Spunjer had, with mine and yours... you will see some similarities, but many more differences.

Spunjer's blade is very different (not the same profile at all).

The hilts look similar (like the ears and the rings on the grip)... but you compare them in detail, the hilts are very different by design (not just due to variation in manufacture). Yours and mine are different because of normal variation, but they are the same hilt (minus the D-guard and clam shell - the only variation of this sword that I have seen) Our swords have the same blade profile.

Spunjer's sword may be a cousin (or 2nd gen), but it is not the same sword.

VVV · 13th November 2006, 07:19 PM

Hi BSM Star,

I agree that the blade and hilt of Spunjer's bolo is a bit different but I still think they are from around the same area.
It also seems like Ian thinks so in the other thread?
After this thread started I found another one of those bolos and that scabbard (haven't had time to fix it yet) also seems to be of Filipino origin.
Unfortunately I don't know enough to be sure from what region.

Michael

Spunjer · 13th November 2006, 07:33 PM

VVV,

how sure are you that the scabbard is original with the sword? i.e., does it fit well? i'm assuming if you remove the white rattan (j/k) you could clearly see the form where the blade rest.

if this is original to the blade, well, another bleeping monkey wrench...

VVV · 13th November 2006, 07:53 PM

Spunjer,

You are correct that the scabbard isn't original.
I removed the rubber rattan and checked.
Sorry for posting it before I had time to go through it properly.

Where do you think this bolo comes from?
No scabbard, with a resembling hilt made of rhino(!?).

Michael

kai · 13th November 2006, 10:48 PM

Hello Michael,

Quote:

Where do you think this bolo comes from?
No scabbard, with a resembling hilt made of rhino(!?).

These nice hilts seem to be all related regardless of some stylistic differences.

Does the horn show the rhino microstructure? I'd have guessed at aged carabao from the pics but you can verify with a magnifying glass...

Regards,
Kai

Spunjer · 14th November 2006, 05:50 AM

michael,

it's really hard to say where it's from. i could guess, but what's the point? this class of swords has been the brown belt sudoku version of the filipino sundangs, or indos for that matter. the jury is still out on this one. like kai said; u sure it's rhino???

13th November 2006, 07:19 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi BSM Star, I agree that the blade and hilt of Spunjer's bolo is a bit different but I still think they are from around the same area. It also seems like Ian thinks so in the other thread? After this thread started I found another one of those bolos and that scabbard (haven't had time to fix it yet) also seems to be of Filipino origin. Unfortunately I don't know enough to be sure from what region. Michael Attached Images

13th November 2006, 07:53 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Spunjer, You are correct that the scabbard isn't original. I removed the rubber rattan and checked. Sorry for posting it before I had time to go through it properly. Where do you think this bolo comes from? No scabbard, with a resembling hilt made of rhino(!?). Michael Attached Images

12th November 2006, 07:47 PM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	The discussion of this sword actually continued in this thread. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...?t=1792&page=3 Batangas was brought up as a probable origin of this, by Stone, incorrect labeled sword. Michael

13th November 2006, 06:56 PM	#2
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Hi Michael, (You have an awesome collection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I think if you compare the sword that Spunjer had, with mine and yours... you will see some similarities, but many more differences. Spunjer's blade is very different (not the same profile at all). The hilts look similar (like the ears and the rings on the grip)... but you compare them in detail, the hilts are very different by design (not just due to variation in manufacture). Yours and mine are different because of normal variation, but they are the same hilt (minus the D-guard and clam shell - the only variation of this sword that I have seen) Our swords have the same blade profile. Spunjer's sword may be a cousin (or 2nd gen), but it is not the same sword.

13th November 2006, 07:33 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	VVV, how sure are you that the scabbard is original with the sword? i.e., does it fit well? i'm assuming if you remove the white rattan (j/k) you could clearly see the form where the blade rest. if this is original to the blade, well, another bleeping monkey wrench...

14th November 2006, 05:50 AM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	michael, it's really hard to say where it's from. i could guess, but what's the point? this class of swords has been the brown belt sudoku version of the filipino sundangs, or indos for that matter. the jury is still out on this one. like kai said; u sure it's rhino???