Rare Dayak Daggers - Sadop and Dohong

Battara · 12th November 2006, 07:23 PM

And more with the

VVV · 12th November 2006, 07:56 PM

Ben,

Thanks for sharing an additional example of this rare parang.
I agree that the handle of your example looks closer to the illustration in Blink.
It's a pity that the pictures in the Shelford article are so poor.

Michael

Dajak · 12th November 2006, 08:47 PM

Hi Michael this one is from the time they have no pics That s why you see no picture off it .
But the mandau from your friend is great I only wanna say that the handle is maybe replaced or the weapon was later than the example from blink.
Having an mandau like this is very rare and your friend have something real special .
the pics in shelford very difficult to see but the classification is nice .
Don t forget the pakayun the type we both have that is in it that is also important for dating after 1900 the fork handle was in use (or the one we have was only for special people) .
I will have something special in an few weeks I will post it here
never see anything like it .

Mytribalworld · 13th November 2006, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi Michael this one is from the time they have no pics That s why you see no picture off it .
But the mandau from your friend is great I only wanna say that the handle is maybe replaced or the weapon was later than the example from blink.
Having an mandau like this is very rare and your friend have something real special .
the pics in shelford very difficult to see but the classification is nice .
Don t forget the pakayun the type we both have that is in it that is also important for dating after 1900 the fork handle was in use (or the one we have was only for special people) .
I will have something special in an few weeks I will post it here
never see anything like it .

Hi Mikael,

does the blade fits good in the scabbard? its seems to me like a double edged blade but the scabbard look like a single edged.

VVV · 14th November 2006, 05:14 PM

Hi Arjan,

Welcome to the forum.
It's not my blade but I know that it fits the scabbard from visiting Karsten. It hangs on his Borneo wall in its scabbard.
But I agree that the scabbard looks like a regular mandau scabbard.

Michael

Dajak · 14th November 2006, 11:02 PM

Hi Arjan can you look up for the Item numbers what date they came into the museum

Ben

David · 15th November 2006, 12:30 AM

Wow!!! Michael and Ben, excellent blades. I just want to thank both you guys for your continued efforts to shed light on the Dayak world. I only have one Dayak weapon but find these blades very interesting. Keep up the great work.

Mytribalworld · 15th November 2006, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi Arjan can you look up for the Item numbers what date they came into the museum

Ben

Hi Ben,

will do in the next weeks I will visit the archives of leiden and will look for that.
between my articles I found this about a bayu wich was collected by Bier during the expedition with Nieuwenhuis.
the article if from Stingl " Schwerter aus Zentral Kalimantan.
jahrbuch des museums fur volkerkunde Leipzig 1969
its a very good study, also because Nieuwenhuis/Bier was almost the only one who gave good descriptions when they collected and mentioned ,place,name of the tribe etc.
sadly the pics are quite bad.

Arjan.

12th November 2006, 07:23 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	And more with the

12th November 2006, 07:56 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Ben, Thanks for sharing an additional example of this rare parang. I agree that the handle of your example looks closer to the illustration in Blink. It's a pity that the pictures in the Shelford article are so poor. Michael

12th November 2006, 08:47 PM	#3
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Michael this one is from the time they have no pics That s why you see no picture off it . But the mandau from your friend is great I only wanna say that the handle is maybe replaced or the weapon was later than the example from blink. Having an mandau like this is very rare and your friend have something real special . the pics in shelford very difficult to see but the classification is nice . Don t forget the pakayun the type we both have that is in it that is also important for dating after 1900 the fork handle was in use (or the one we have was only for special people) . I will have something special in an few weeks I will post it here never see anything like it .

14th November 2006, 05:14 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi Arjan, Welcome to the forum. It's not my blade but I know that it fits the scabbard from visiting Karsten. It hangs on his Borneo wall in its scabbard. But I agree that the scabbard looks like a regular mandau scabbard. Michael

14th November 2006, 11:02 PM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Arjan can you look up for the Item numbers what date they came into the museum Ben

15th November 2006, 12:30 AM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Wow!!! Michael and Ben, excellent blades. I just want to thank both you guys for your continued efforts to shed light on the Dayak world. I only have one Dayak weapon but find these blades very interesting. Keep up the great work.