Magnetic weapons

Mare Rosu · 14th February 2005, 03:35 PM

JENS
Since you will not stop asking question on this great thread of yours

I will answer one at least, to me, it is a possibility, if in fact the magnetic properties of a blade were desirable as JIM states then more would be even better, it would be to me anyway.
I am still waiting for the equipment to visual demonstrate the magnetic effect on the Mysore dagger. Should be in this week, I hope.
Gene

Jens Nordlunde · 14th February 2005, 04:30 PM

How strong a magnet is a lodestone, and are different stones of different strength?
I think they may be, according to the amount of iron – but I am not sure.
If we accept, that the first compass (sorry JimJ) was a bucket of water with a splinter of lodestone floating on the water, how long time would it take before the stone started diving?
Should they have any use of this early compass, then either the lodestone must be a rather strong magnet – adjusting fast north-south, or the stone must be very light to give it time to adjust before diving.
Gene, I agree with Jim, that making swords and daggers always, especially in the early days, had something to do with mysticism. In the Nordic mythology the dwarfs made the weapons for the Gods, as they were a mystic people, who knew how to put whichever witchcraft desired into any blade. I think the idea of this has been Worldwide, the more a blade differed from another blade, the bigger the talismanic value – and a blade like yours would, I think, have a big talismanic value for the owner.

Jens

fearn · 14th February 2005, 05:47 PM

Hi Jens,

This is going off topic, but I think that, if you put the lodestone on a float (for instance, a piece of cork or wood) then it would float quite easily.

Fearn

Jens Nordlunde · 14th February 2005, 06:14 PM

Hi Fearn,

Yes, you are right of course - I should have thought of it, and yes, you are quite right, I was off the topic

.

Jens

Jens Nordlunde · 16th February 2005, 05:20 PM

I have had an interesting mail from one of our new members, whom I would like to welcome to this forum, Dr. Ann Feuerbach. In the mail she told me to take an interest in Archaeomagnetism. I did not know the word, but I do know, try to go on Google and look for the word. This, I am quite sure will interest many of you, and it gives the whole discussion another angle. Happy surfing.

Jens

Rivkin · 16th February 2005, 05:51 PM

Archeomagnetism is using old pottery, iron deposits etc. to study the evolution of the Earth's magnetic field.

Jens Nordlunde · 16th February 2005, 06:46 PM

Thank you Rivkin, I know that you also tried to direct me in that direction - when you mention the cheramics - but I did not understand it at the time - sorry.
None the less - this is a most interesting subject, and I tink that much more forumites should join.
This is not only facinating, it is essential how to find out, how old a thing is - and to prove it. Any collector must be interested to join this discussion!

Jens

Jens Nordlunde · 9th April 2005, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fearn

Hi Jens,

This is going off topic, but I think that, if you put the lodestone on a float (for instance, a piece of cork or wood) then it would float quite easily.

Fearn

Hi Fearn,
Yesterday I saw that the compasses were made like a fish (hollow I guess) swimming on oil.

Jens

14th February 2005, 03:35 PM	#1
Mare Rosu Deceased Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: USA, DEEP SOUTH, GEORGIA, Y'all hear? Posts: 121	Mysore Dagger pole changes JENS Since you will not stop asking question on this great thread of yours I will answer one at least, to me, it is a possibility, if in fact the magnetic properties of a blade were desirable as JIM states then more would be even better, it would be to me anyway. I am still waiting for the equipment to visual demonstrate the magnetic effect on the Mysore dagger. Should be in this week, I hope. Gene

14th February 2005, 04:30 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	How strong a magnet is a lodestone, and are different stones of different strength? I think they may be, according to the amount of iron – but I am not sure. If we accept, that the first compass (sorry JimJ) was a bucket of water with a splinter of lodestone floating on the water, how long time would it take before the stone started diving? Should they have any use of this early compass, then either the lodestone must be a rather strong magnet – adjusting fast north-south, or the stone must be very light to give it time to adjust before diving. Gene, I agree with Jim, that making swords and daggers always, especially in the early days, had something to do with mysticism. In the Nordic mythology the dwarfs made the weapons for the Gods, as they were a mystic people, who knew how to put whichever witchcraft desired into any blade. I think the idea of this has been Worldwide, the more a blade differed from another blade, the bigger the talismanic value – and a blade like yours would, I think, have a big talismanic value for the owner. Jens

14th February 2005, 05:47 PM	#3
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Jens, This is going off topic, but I think that, if you put the lodestone on a float (for instance, a piece of cork or wood) then it would float quite easily. Fearn

14th February 2005, 06:14 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Fearn, Yes, you are right of course - I should have thought of it, and yes, you are quite right, I was off the topic . Jens

16th February 2005, 05:20 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I have had an interesting mail from one of our new members, whom I would like to welcome to this forum, Dr. Ann Feuerbach. In the mail she told me to take an interest in Archaeomagnetism. I did not know the word, but I do know, try to go on Google and look for the word. This, I am quite sure will interest many of you, and it gives the whole discussion another angle. Happy surfing. Jens

16th February 2005, 05:51 PM	#6
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Archeomagnetism is using old pottery, iron deposits etc. to study the evolution of the Earth's magnetic field.

16th February 2005, 06:46 PM	#7
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Thank you Rivkin, I know that you also tried to direct me in that direction - when you mention the cheramics - but I did not understand it at the time - sorry. None the less - this is a most interesting subject, and I tink that much more forumites should join. This is not only facinating, it is essential how to find out, how old a thing is - and to prove it. Any collector must be interested to join this discussion! Jens