Tumbok Lada classification

drdavid · 10th November 2006, 10:49 PM

Hi Michael, you show some beautiful pieces here, and the collection on Kampung net is outstanding.
The blade length on my piece is 30cms (12"), and the hilt is 12cms.
DrD

VVV · 12th November 2006, 08:29 PM

Hi Drdavid,

I think it's hard to say what your blade is?
It has the lenght of a small Golok but I would hesitate to call it that because of the blade's shape?
Goloks, as I understand it, are made primarily for cutting and yours looks like it's made primarily for thrusting.

Another example is this blade.
It's 54 cm overall with a blade of 40 cm that could be used both for cutting and thrusting. Feels primarily like a slashing blade.
I haven't found out yet what it is?
Maybe a Golok Rembau (see Hill and van Z)?

Michael

drdavid · 20th November 2006, 09:36 AM

Hi Michael
you are correct mine does not have the feel or look of a slashing weapon, but as a stabbing one it would be effective. Van Zonneveld's description of a Golok Rembau sounds pretty good, a bit bigger than a Tumbok Lada but similar shape. Thanks for your help.
cheers
David

CharlesS · 20th November 2006, 12:37 PM

Let me throw another term into the mix...'kirah'....I am not exactly sure how this differs from a sewar.

Any input Michael?

Lovely pieces, as usual, by the way!

Correction edit: Sorry, meant 'karih'.

VVV · 20th November 2006, 01:08 PM

Thanks Charles,

Are you sure that it's Kirah and not Karih?
What's the reference for this name?

Michael

Alam Shah · 20th November 2006, 01:58 PM

An example of a Karih from Sumatra. Note: shorter curled hilt.

A close-up of the blade.

A close-up of the hilt and upper-sheath, made of buffalo horn.

Rick · 20th November 2006, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

An example of a Karih from Sumatra. Note: shorter curled hilt.

A close-up of the blade.

Now this piece looks similar to the example showed in post #2.
What d'you think Alam Shah ?

VVV · 20th November 2006, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

An example of a Karih from Sumatra. Note: shorter curled hilt.

Shahrial,

Isn't that my Karih in your post?
Or do you have its twin?

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

Michael

20th November 2006, 12:37 PM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Let me throw another term into the mix...'kirah'....I am not exactly sure how this differs from a sewar. Any input Michael? Lovely pieces, as usual, by the way! Correction edit: Sorry, meant 'karih'. Last edited by CharlesS; 21st November 2006 at 12:33 PM.

20th November 2006, 01:58 PM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	An example of a Karih from Sumatra. Note: shorter curled hilt. A close-up of the blade. A close-up of the hilt and upper-sheath, made of buffalo horn. Last edited by Alam Shah; 20th November 2006 at 02:09 PM.

10th November 2006, 10:49 PM	#1
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Hi Michael, you show some beautiful pieces here, and the collection on Kampung net is outstanding. The blade length on my piece is 30cms (12"), and the hilt is 12cms. DrD

12th November 2006, 08:29 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi Drdavid, I think it's hard to say what your blade is? It has the lenght of a small Golok but I would hesitate to call it that because of the blade's shape? Goloks, as I understand it, are made primarily for cutting and yours looks like it's made primarily for thrusting. Another example is this blade. It's 54 cm overall with a blade of 40 cm that could be used both for cutting and thrusting. Feels primarily like a slashing blade. I haven't found out yet what it is? Maybe a Golok Rembau (see Hill and van Z)? Michael Attached Images Last edited by VVV; 12th November 2006 at 08:43 PM.

20th November 2006, 09:36 AM	#3
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Hi Michael you are correct mine does not have the feel or look of a slashing weapon, but as a stabbing one it would be effective. Van Zonneveld's description of a Golok Rembau sounds pretty good, a bit bigger than a Tumbok Lada but similar shape. Thanks for your help. cheers David

20th November 2006, 01:08 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Charles, Are you sure that it's Kirah and not Karih? What's the reference for this name? Michael