Indian Katar

Philip · 31st October 2006, 08:11 AM

Hi, Jim
Thanks for the detailed writeup on this one. I don't have any bone to pick with Dr. Pant's terminology, in fact I've encountered this explanation elsewhere (can't remember where at moment) so it's corroborated. I agree with you that "everyone" is so used to the term "katar" that to campaign to change the common usage may be a comparable to that Greek fellow's trying to roll the boulder up the hill every day...

By the way, do you have E. J. Paul's ARMS AND ARMOUR: TRADITIONAL WEAPONS OF INDIA? Nice introductory volume, isn't it? Wonderfully illustrated. Not as academic a volume as Rawson's classic THE INDIAN SWORD, but very accessible to the general reader and beginning collector.

Andrew · 31st October 2006, 01:58 PM

Great discussion, guys. Many thanks.

Jens Nordlunde · 2nd November 2006, 06:06 PM

Hi Athena

,

Thanks for showing you katar.

You should however try to clean is a bit, how much is up to you, as we all have different preferences as to how we would like out weapons to present themselves. Should you need help when cleaning it, please make a search for cleaning/etching.

Don’t you have any comments at all?

Jens

athena · 4th November 2006, 03:32 AM

Hi Jens,

I tried to clean it, but the steel seems too hard.

Jens Nordlunde · 4th November 2006, 05:31 PM

Hi Athena,

There must be a misunderstanding, the katar is pure Indian, not Chinese. The earliest description I know of, is from around 1330, written by Ibn Battuta/Batula or several other ways of spelling his name.

Jens

31st October 2006, 08:11 AM	#1
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	terminology Hi, Jim Thanks for the detailed writeup on this one. I don't have any bone to pick with Dr. Pant's terminology, in fact I've encountered this explanation elsewhere (can't remember where at moment) so it's corroborated. I agree with you that "everyone" is so used to the term "katar" that to campaign to change the common usage may be a comparable to that Greek fellow's trying to roll the boulder up the hill every day... By the way, do you have E. J. Paul's ARMS AND ARMOUR: TRADITIONAL WEAPONS OF INDIA? Nice introductory volume, isn't it? Wonderfully illustrated. Not as academic a volume as Rawson's classic THE INDIAN SWORD, but very accessible to the general reader and beginning collector.

2nd November 2006, 06:06 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Athena, Thanks for showing you katar. You should however try to clean is a bit, how much is up to you, as we all have different preferences as to how we would like out weapons to present themselves. Should you need help when cleaning it, please make a search for cleaning/etching. Don’t you have any comments at all? Jens

31st October 2006, 01:58 PM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Great discussion, guys. Many thanks.

4th November 2006, 03:32 AM	#4
athena Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 42	Hi Jens, I tried to clean it, but the steel seems too hard.

4th November 2006, 05:31 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Athena, There must be a misunderstanding, the katar is pure Indian, not Chinese. The earliest description I know of, is from around 1330, written by Ibn Battuta/Batula or several other ways of spelling his name. Jens