Old Argentinian facon ...

Chris Evans · 25th October 2006, 07:06 AM

Hi Fernando,

Many thanks for that explanation.

Domenech is of the opinion that the word facon came into usage when Brazilian gauchos came into contact with those of what nowadays is Uruguay, who were armed with very large knives and referred to these as facao, pronounced as facaun and the Gauchos Hispanizied it to facon.

Cheers
Chris

not2sharp · 25th October 2006, 01:27 PM

The sword in the first post looks like it may be one of a wide variety of musician's sidearms, dress bayonets, or walking out swords, that were popular during the 19th century. These were used widely, by many nations, in a wide variety of forms - the same manufacturers would often contract to mix and match parts to fill customer orders. The blade on this looks very similar to the one used by the Italian Piedmont short sword of 1848, but it could just as easily been made for a private society during the late 19th or early 20th century.

n2s

fernando · 25th October 2006, 09:13 PM

Hi Chris,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Evans

Hi Fernando,

Many thanks for that explanation.

Domenech is of the opinion that the word facon came into usage when Brazilian gauchos came into contact with those of what nowadays is Uruguay, who were armed with very large knives and referred to these as facao, pronounced as facaun and the Gauchos Hispanizied it to facon.
Cheers
Chris

So it all fits.
BTW the sound is more like facaum.
Regards
fernando

25th October 2006, 07:06 AM	#1
Chris Evans Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 685	Hi Fernando, Many thanks for that explanation. Domenech is of the opinion that the word facon came into usage when Brazilian gauchos came into contact with those of what nowadays is Uruguay, who were armed with very large knives and referred to these as facao, pronounced as facaun and the Gauchos Hispanizied it to facon. Cheers Chris Last edited by Chris Evans; 25th October 2006 at 10:40 AM.

25th October 2006, 01:27 PM	#2
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	The sword in the first post looks like it may be one of a wide variety of musician's sidearms, dress bayonets, or walking out swords, that were popular during the 19th century. These were used widely, by many nations, in a wide variety of forms - the same manufacturers would often contract to mix and match parts to fill customer orders. The blade on this looks very similar to the one used by the Italian Piedmont short sword of 1848, but it could just as easily been made for a private society during the late 19th or early 20th century. n2s